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Old 07-15-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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If CA continues with their leftist trend, by 2050 in CA will be left just a bunch of tent living zombies consuming own made weed as sole source of nutrition...
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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Oh well. Start dumping shipments at the state line and let them figure out how to get it the rest of the way.

No worries! Gavin's Super-Express Imaginary Bullett Train can pick all that stuff up and deliver it in mere minutes to any point in the Suicidal State! Just you wait!
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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That is caused to due excess fuel going into the engine and not burning off. The un-burnt fuel is pushed out of the exhaust creating the black soot.

It could be due to worn fuel injectors or a fuel pump going bad. It is also a modification done by the vehicle owner to create the soot on purpose to mimic the tractors of old or to roll coal.
A new truck in proper working order with a diesel motor, since 2011, emits almost no soot or NoX through the exhaust pipe. If there is something coming out of that pipe, then something with their emissions treatment system is not working properly.

A new truck in proper working order will have exhaust stacks that are nearly as clean/shiny after 10 years compared to when the truck was new.

A new "glider kit" truck, though, will still have older emissions technology on it. Lots of them have been sold each year and that is what some of you may be seeing.

This is one example of that:

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...r-coronado-132
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Truck makers don't move that fast. Unlike most cars, their products have long life cycles.





I like the Nikola model better than either one for non-dedicated long haul applications.
It doesn't require many hydrogen fueling locations to cover a very high percentage of a large fleet's routes.
1200 miles range is a lot more realistic. 4 hours wastes too much time and time is money in trucking.
HAHA you think the same truck makers are going to be leading the pack in 10 years!
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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I would think we'd be more eco-conscious by 2050 and utilize intermodal transport more efficiently. I would think drives greater than 4 hours should really consider using the rails. Maybe the EV semis would be used for short hauls only.

Hauls more than 4 hours can be very unhealthy for truckers. It's recommended that folks down sit for durations longer than 45 minutes at this point. Drivers risk fatigue and kidney issues as well if they don't take proper breaks.
And anyways, trucks are going to go probably 7-8 hours of continuous driving (if they want). And eventually, there won't be a driver anyways...
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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Tesla Semi trucks are a joke when you have fresh produce that has to be transported from the West cost to the east cost you need a reefer Semi Truck to keep the product cold in the trailer and get it to the east coast within a week. And if you have to stop every 4 hours charge then you’re load will go bad by the time it gets there, and how you going to keep the Reefer cold add another battery lol lol and trains can go so far. California is a Democratic State that’s in so much trouble with all their regulations and policies. Look at all the people homeless on the streets of LA and San Francisco. Semi trucks keep America rolling everything you eat, and wear and use is delivered by a semi truck. Ever see a train backed up in your local grocery store shipping dock.
They are a joke because there's some use cases that they won't work well at? Right...
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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A new truck in proper working order with a diesel motor, since 2011, emits almost no soot or NoX through the exhaust pipe. If there is something coming out of that pipe, then something with their emissions treatment system is not working properly.

A new truck in proper working order will have exhaust stacks that are nearly as clean/shiny after 10 years compared to when the truck was new.

A new "glider kit" truck, though, will still have older emissions technology on it. Lots of them have been sold each year and that is what some of you may be seeing.

This is one example of that:

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...r-coronado-132
No one cares. Plenty of studies showing diesel emissions are not healthy.

Negative externalities of combustion engines have been ignored for decades. Fine, but they aren't being ignored any longer. When you try to price in those costs, combustion engines aren't viable. And soon, they won't be financially viable anyways.

Governments who care about public health aren't going to take it anymore when they see there are alternatives. Same for most sane citizens.

Your oil-derived combustion engines are going BYE BYE.

There's nothing you can do about it.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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A new truck in proper working order with a diesel motor, since 2011, emits almost no soot or NoX through the exhaust pipe. If there is something coming out of that pipe, then something with their emissions treatment system is not working properly.

A new truck in proper working order will have exhaust stacks that are nearly as clean/shiny after 10 years compared to when the truck was new.

A new "glider kit" truck, though, will still have older emissions technology on it. Lots of them have been sold each year and that is what some of you may be seeing.

This is one example of that:

https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...r-coronado-132
We were talking pickup trucks - not big rigs.

Things like this:



In this case, it's intentionally dumping fuel which doesn't burn and is then blown out through the exhaust.
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Old 07-15-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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My thought is the dirty diesel is what has built California. What's yours?
That I like my air with less carcinogens. Not sure when that became controversial.
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Old 07-15-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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No one cares. Plenty of studies showing diesel emissions are not healthy.

Negative externalities of combustion engines have been ignored for decades. Fine, but they aren't being ignored any longer. When you try to price in those costs, combustion engines aren't viable. And soon, they won't be financially viable anyways.

Governments who care about public health aren't going to take it anymore when they see there are alternatives. Same for most sane citizens.

Your oil-derived combustion engines are going BYE BYE.

There's nothing you can do about it.
Thanks for the commentary, Greenpeace. Your rant has nothing to do with what I was responding to so thanks for that.

I’m not for or against ICE’s. When battery technology improves enough where it can be price competitive and provide the range needed for most people then I’m all for it. But let’s not pretend that’s the answer, either, as environmental issues making and disposing of batteries is also a big problem. (And the impact on the power grid if everyone is trying to plug-in at the same time.)
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