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View Poll Results: Safe at higher speeds and heavy traffic?
Yes 16 53.33%
No 14 46.67%
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Old 09-28-2019, 07:43 PM
 
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I do not feel safe at all in my 1993 Geo Prizm. It does have a driver side air bag, but it is too slow to keep up with today's traffic. I would think an 80's Ford Escort is even more unsafe and slower than my car. My Geo just won't die, but it needs to be retired because it is too outdated.
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Old 09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: NNV
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My Geo just won't die...
Generally when someone says this it implies the car is not in good shape or well maintained.
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Old 09-28-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: pensacola,florida
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My brother had an 80 something Escort GT.I thought it handled,braked,and accelerated pretty well for what it was.I wouldn't hesitate to drive one today if it was in good shape.

Its not a car I would 'choose' to be in if I knew I was going to have a bad accident,but there are PLENTY of new cars I wouldn't choose either.....and they are all safer than getting hit on my motorcycle,yet I still ride one.

People who are overly concerned about safety should probably just take the bus.
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Old 09-28-2019, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Oak Bowery
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I drove a ‘73 Land Rover Series III for about 5 years on Phoenix’s freeways from ‘98 to ‘03. Sure, top speed was maybe 63 on a good day but it was rush hour and 63 isn’t feasible. Beyond that, it had great brakes, was build like a tank and people seemed to sense that cutting me off probably wasn’t a good idea. Lol I mostly worried about my knees. I would have been crippled if I survived a bad accident. Thank goodness I never had one!

An 82 Escort might be safe than a 77 LR.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Default Percentage of Accidents Resulting in Fatalities, by Car Model Year

Percentage of Accidents Resulting in Fatalities, by Car Model Year
  • 1984 and earlier: 55%
  • 1985-1992: 53%
  • 1993-1997: 46%
  • 1997-2002: 42%
  • 2003-2007: 36%
  • 2008-2012: 31%
  • 2013-2017: 26%

...the source is the NHTSA. Airbags, improved architecture, and improved materials continue to reduce serious injuries and fatalities with each new generation of designs. Moreover, what's not shown here, is that in the last 5-10 years, electronic safety features allowing us to better *avoid* accidents have become more prevalent and more sophisticated. Those too, will only improve.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz.../#3a8f7b5b2104
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Old 09-29-2019, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Default Older vs Newer Car - Head On Crash Testing

Here's are some videos of older vehicles crashing into newer ones.

1959 Chevrolet Bel Air vs. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g

1998 Toyota Corolla vs 2015 Toyota Corolla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDHuthGIS4

Side by Side Comparison of 1997 and 2017 subcompacts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYQV5UJT74g

2016 minivan vs 1997 minivan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRxLlFm3VUA

1990s Volvo 940 full-sized wagon vs 2008 Renault Modus subcompact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY
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Old 09-29-2019, 06:14 AM
 
Location: western NY
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Here's are some videos of older vehicles crashing into newer ones.

1959 Chevrolet Bel Air vs. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g

1998 Toyota Corolla vs 2015 Toyota Corolla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDHuthGIS4

Side by Side Comparison of 1997 and 2017 subcompacts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYQV5UJT74g

2016 minivan vs 1997 minivan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRxLlFm3VUA

1990s Volvo 940 full-sized wagon vs 2008 Renault Modus subcompact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY


That's all interesting stuff, but I don't buy a car based on it's "crashworthiness". My criteria is a car that has the braking and cornering ability that allow me to avoid the crash in the first place....
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Old 09-29-2019, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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That's all interesting stuff, but I don't buy a car based on it's "crashworthiness". My criteria is a car that has the braking and cornering ability that allow me to avoid the crash in the first place....
The point is, new cars are far better at protecting occupants in a crash than older cars. It's been a trend over the past 50 years. This information is all over in many forms and in many places, but some still deny it.

As to avoiding crashes, whether it's the electronic safety aids, or handling and braking, newer cars are improving those aspects too.
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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I wouldn't be caught dead with an 82 escort.

I like my escorts in the 22-26 age range...

and I don't pick them up.
They better arrange a drop off with their pimp.
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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Not sure why you have issues with a Ford Escort, it was a solid car in its day and was quite the little race car particularly if equipped with the Cosworth engine. here read up on its history = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)
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