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I heard that another team offered Turner a slightly better deal, but that two of the reasons he picked Philly were that his wife is from southern New Jersey, and that the Phillies spring training is in florida (where he is from).
Padres were that team. I had heard for awhile now he wanted to go back to the East Coast.
This is government math. Look.. Yes, I get it.. There's a certain logic behind it. But that's still ~$27 million in 2030 dollars that WON'T be available for a SS who isn't 40 years old. That thinking is.. A bit of smoke and mirrors to justify that kind of spending on a player of that age.
How well did a long contract for Ryan Howard work out? Roy Halliday? Prince Fielder? Albert Pujols? Chris Davis?
Fielder is a bit unfair.. He was still quite productive and that was an injury issue which insurance covered part of, but still..
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Originally Posted by RMESMH
I heard that another team offered Turner a slightly better deal, but that two of the reasons he picked Philly were that his wife is from southern New Jersey, and that the Phillies spring training is in florida (where he is from).
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Originally Posted by Statz2k10
Padres were that team. I had heard for awhile now he wanted to go back to the East Coast.
Correct. Turner's wife is from NJ, so, puts them close to her family.. Plus, he actually, apparently, would have wound up making LESS money signing the bigger contract with the Padres due to California taxes. $44 million in extra taxes vs $42 million extra in the contract.
The question will be.. Can he handle the Philly Faithful? It tends to take a mental toughness to play there.
Yeah, I walked in the door and heard Cavuto and Abby Hornacek talking about it.
Abby said that the Padres offered more.....10 years $400 million (vs. 9 and $360 million).
(But, as someone else in this thread other than me pointed out, the 'face' of these contracts don't include overall income taxes/get specific about the net $).
ETA: I just read the link and...without specifics...it mentioned "larger offers". If that is true, then at least one other team besides the Padres offered more than the Yankees. A graphic was shown earlier, on TV, that it's the fourth largest North American sports contract ever....behind Mahomes ($503 million), Trout ($4_ _._ million), and Mookie Betts ($365 million). Mookie and Trout's contracts are longer. Judge's has the highest annual value ever for a position player.
This is government math. Look.. Yes, I get it.. There's a certain logic behind it. But that's still ~$27 million in 2030 dollars that WON'T be available for a SS who isn't 40 years old. That thinking is.. A bit of smoke and mirrors to justify that kind of spending on a player of that age.
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NL World Series team adds the stud SS available, plus a solid starter in Walker.
Phils should win 100+ often the next 3-5 years. That leapfrogs them from a hard Wild Card run to a division winning easier past several times the next 3-5 years.
In order to pass them, Braves need IMO to add someone like Bassitt plus get Swanson back.
Mets must retain Nimmo and Bassitt, plus add 7th/8th inning bullpen arms.
Turner is the NL east offseason gamechanger. It makes no sense for a non contender, but Phils 1/2 is rock solid, Walker is a good 4/ slightly subpar 3 IMO, and their already lethal top of the order just got much, much better.
If given the choice between signing 1 Jansen for $15 million, or signing 10 David Robertson's for $1.5 million, I'd rather sign the 10 guys for $1.5 million, because you are more likely to find someone that has a dominant year in those 10, for 1/100,000th of the price which you can use elsewhere to fill major holes.
Except that the cost of a David Robertson is now apparently $10 million. Or $21 million when you include the cost of luxury tax penalties.
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