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As I previously stated, regardless of how a team got to the finals, anything can happen. I again reference the 18-0 PAtriots, first team in NFL history to go 18-0 since the season was extended, and they lose to the Giants. As a Pats fan I never saw a choke. I saw another team peak and take us down.
If anyone says LeBron isn't in the top echelon of the greatest NBA players of all time is wrong. That's what beat the first ever 73 game in a season team. And Irving had a great series too. Be a sport and a fan of sport and allow yourself to see that the better team won the series, the team that played better in the finals regardless of how they got there.
Cavs were NEVER the better team they play in the sorry eastern conference and warriors had their best starters injured bogut and barnes plus curry's health was questioned.This is no different then 2013 finals when everyone knew spurs shoulda won.
Yes, I ignore two years of regular season records, but the '14 playoff series is now gospel? Using your logic, the Warriors were the sixth seed in that series, and only lost 4-3.
My logic which also states that the west is highly competitive. The difference between the 6th seed Warriors and 3 seed Clippers is all of 6 wins, LOL. Lets not pretend it was a David vs Goliath matchup based on regular season records.
As I said, the playoffs are about matchups. The Warriors matched up with two good/healthy 50 something win teams this year and did not look great. The Clippers are also a good team...they won 53 games despite Griffin only playing 35 games.
Teams are an evolving system. Players improve certain aspects of their game, team chemistry improves, coaches maybe improve their skillset, roster changes, rotation changes, etc. That's why you can't just say, well this team hasn't been great in the playoffs for 3 years therefore they're destined to under perform this year as well.
Are the 2015 Clippers garbage because they lost in 7 games to a 56 win Rockets team? Do they not get credit for beating the 55 win defending champion Spurs? The western conference is not the eastern conference. It's not like a team is automatically bad if they can't make the WCF. Take the Spurs for example - were they a horrible team in '09, '10 and '11? Not really, they just play in a competitive conference where it's possible to have a good team while having several years in a row of not going deep into the playoffs.
My logic which also states that the west is highly competitive. The difference between the 6th seed Warriors and 3 seed Clippers is all of 6 wins, LOL. Lets not pretend it was a David vs Goliath matchup based on regular season records.
As I said, the playoffs are about matchups. The Warriors matched up with two good/healthy 50 something win teams this year and did not look great. The Clippers are also a good team...they won 53 games despite Griffin only playing 35 games.
Teams are an evolving system. Players improve certain aspects of their game, team chemistry improves, coaches maybe improve their skillset, roster changes, rotation changes, etc. That's why you can't just say, well this team hasn't been great in the playoffs for 3 years therefore they're destined to under perform this year as well.
Are the 2015 Clippers garbage because they lost in 7 games to a 56 win Rockets team? Do they not get credit for beating the 55 win defending champion Spurs? The western conference is not the eastern conference. It's not like a team is automatically bad if they can't make the WCF. Take the Spurs for example - were they a horrible team in '09, '10 and '11? Not really, they just play in a competitive conference where it's possible to have a good team while having several years in a row of not going deep into the playoffs.
Again, not saying the Clips are garbage. I just don't think Clips based, not on what they did, but what others teams did to the Warriors are ready to be proclaimed a better team than the Warriors. The Clips did choke a 3-1 lead away last season.
I don't think you can automatically claim the Clips are better than the Warriors for the exact same reason you are arguing the reverse: GS gets no credit for being the defending champs? Or beating the same Rockets team the Clips choked against last season?
Teams do evolve, but the Clippers have while the Warriors didn't? Yeah, the West is tough but the Warriors navigated it twice. How many times have the Clips? Come on, they haven't negotiated to the WCF yet. Lol
If the Warriors would have won, this would have been the second straight Finals that Curry wouldn't have (or shouldn't have) won MVP. He can hit how ever many hundred 3's he wants but LeBron is still the best all-around player and I would still take LeBron to guide my team when we're losing a series over Curry.
I don't think this team is nearly as good as the 1996 Bulls and now I think everyone realizes it.
This is probably the happiest I've ever been for LeBron, too. Him, the city of Cleveland, Drew Carey...
Cavs were NEVER the better team they play in the sorry eastern conference and warriors had their best starters injured bogut and barnes plus curry's health was questioned.This is no different then 2013 finals when everyone knew spurs shoulda won.
That was a different kind of choke job. Spurs choked it up at the free throw line.
I don't think you can automatically claim the Clips are better than the Warriors for the exact same reason you are arguing the reverse: GS gets no credit for being the defending champs?
Eddie doesn't comprehend commonsense like that. It's fine to question if it was one of the biggest choke jobs in NBA history. But he doesn't stop there. He has to declare that they will just be an average playoff team next year. Most overrated team? I don't think so. For one, it was fair to rate them as high as the media did. Again, what is the bar? You have to win 80 games now before you can be rated highly? That's a little ridiculous no? Not to mention they were reigning champs with 73 wins.
Just because they choked in the Finals doesn't mean they are also overrated. The two do not have to be connected at the hip IMO.
Well there it is folks. Don't ever compare this team to the '96 Bulls. Or hell, even the '97 team.
Steph Curry - perhaps the worst MVP in history?
Charles Barkley correct? Jump shooting teams are beatable...especially during droughts?
2015 championship = fluke?
Warriors back to mediocre playoff team?
I think a healthy Cleveland would have won last year too. Remember that they didn't have Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love for the finals. It was Lebron himself vs the Warriors.
I think a healthy Cleveland would have won last year too. Remember that they didn't have Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love for the finals. It was Lebron himself vs the Warriors.
Kevin Love? Lol
Most of you are forgetting Irving only played half a season and was in midseason form by the playoffs. That wouldn't have been the case last year.
Most of you are forgetting Irving only played half a season and was in midseason form by the playoffs. That wouldn't have been the case last year.
Cavs > warriors
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