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Old 01-03-2020, 02:17 PM
 
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Rochester fires and Buffalo hires - I missed this from a couple of weeks ago:

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Buffalo Schools could benefit from Rochester teacher layoffs
Buffalo Public Schools to recruit in Rochester

BUFFALO, NY (WKBW) — Layoffs are looming for more than 150-teachers in the Rochester City School District.

But the Buffalo Public School District is standing by, ready to offer potential teaching jobs.

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The Buffalo School District says those who are invited to Tuesday’s Rochester recruitment could be hired on the spot and teaching at a Buffalo School early as this January.

Warren said they are looking for “high performing teachers” with a “proven track record” in closing the achievement gaps.

As for selling the Buffalo community to a teacher from Rochester, Warren says she believes it’s an easy sell.

“We’re doing great here. I think Buffalo sells itself,” Warren replied.
https://www.wkbw.com/news/eye-on-edu...eacher-layoffs

7 or 8 years ago, Buffalo and Rochester city public school districts had roughly the same number of students, but by last year there were over 5000 more students in BPS compared to Rochester. Even with the rise in Charter school enrollment by about 4000 students in Buffalo, BPS total enrollment has remained fairly steady since 2011. The Say YES program may have contributed to maintaining a consistent enrollment in city schools. 2019-2020 enrollment numbers aren't available yet, so no information on whether this trend is continuing.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 06:42 AM
 
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Rochester fires and Buffalo hires - I missed this from a couple of weeks ago:


https://www.wkbw.com/news/eye-on-edu...eacher-layoffs

7 or 8 years ago, Buffalo and Rochester city public school districts had roughly the same number of students, but by last year there were over 5000 more students in BPS compared to Rochester. Even with the rise in Charter school enrollment by about 4000 students in Buffalo, BPS total enrollment has remained fairly steady since 2011. The Say YES program may have contributed to maintaining a consistent enrollment in city schools. 2019-2020 enrollment numbers aren't available yet, so no information on whether this trend is continuing.

You forgot to mention that this isn't due to student enrollment. It is due to a financial issue caused by the last superintendent. I don't believe there will be anywhere near 155. Additionally, being a union, the newest and less experienced will be laid off, while BPS wants the best teachers. Sounds like a case of poaching.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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You forgot to mention that this isn't due to student enrollment. It is due to a financial issue caused by the last superintendent. I don't believe there will be anywhere near 155. Additionally, being a union, the newest and less experienced will be laid off, while BPS wants the best teachers. Sounds like a case of poaching.
It is not poaching if they are laid off. Also, if they are laying off based on seniority, then ability and performance should be a mix allowing Buffalo to choose the best.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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It is not poaching if they are laid off. Also, if they are laying off based on seniority, then ability and performance should be a mix allowing Buffalo to choose the best.


Why is it so hard to fill jobs in Buffalo?
 
Old 01-04-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Why is it so hard to fill jobs in Buffalo?
Teacher Shortage is 'Real and Growing, and Worse than We Thought'

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Teacher Shortage is ‘Real and Growing, and Worse Than We Thought’

While the teacher shortage is being felt across many states and school districts, its impact is not shared equally along socioeconomic lines, according to a new paper by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI).

Probably the most critical resource denied to many students is an experienced, full-certified teacher – a deficit that is “much more acute problem in high-poverty schools,” said EPI Economist Emma García. “These shortages threaten students’ ability to learn and reduce teachers’ effectiveness, and high teacher turnover consumes economic resources that could be better deployed elsewhere.”
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As the U.S. economy slowly recovered from the Great Recession and school budgets improved, districts began to look for teachers. They soon found that filling positions was more difficult than they had anticipated. Too many districts have struggled ever since. Finding qualified teachers in mathematics, science and special education has been a particular challenge.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 10:10 AM
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Its almost a rule when the economy is strong teaching becomes a less than attractive choice. Throw in the challenge of working in a lower economic demographic and your fighting an uphill battle with a head wind. One of the biggest complaints of new teachers is not the kids but the parents, their expectations are not always realistic and the school districts too off kow tow to them. Its the same everywhere...
 
Old 01-04-2020, 06:49 PM
 
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Its almost a rule when the economy is strong teaching becomes a less than attractive choice. Throw in the challenge of working in a lower economic demographic and your fighting an uphill battle with a head wind. One of the biggest complaints of new teachers is not the kids but the parents, their expectations are not always realistic and the school districts too off kow tow to them. Its the same everywhere...

Yes, but as people move here to manufacture solar panels and work at The M&T hub, Their spouses in many cases will be looking for a teachers position.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 07:21 PM
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Yes, but as people move here to manufacture solar panels and work at The M&T hub, Their spouses in many cases will be looking for a teachers position.
I'll wish them luck, I have often heard that the upstate districts especially the smaller ones are rife with nepotism, they say that without some type of connection your not going to get your foot in the door.
 
Old 01-05-2020, 03:45 PM
 
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I'll wish them luck, I have often heard that the upstate districts especially the smaller ones are rife with nepotism, they say that without some type of connection your not going to get your foot in the door.

Teaching salaries nationally are pretty abysmal. But, in upstate NY, it is a pretty well paying job relative to both the COL and the other alternatives available to white collar workers in much of upstate NY. When combined with stagnate/declining demand for teachers it isn't too surprising jobs are hard to land.
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