What's conservative about Chico? (Sacramento, Redding: how much, buy, school)

[NorCal Dude]

The fact that residents do not like to tolerate drunkin- drugged out antics of college students seems to be the main reason people claim its conservative.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

While liberals participate in all of these (because it's impossible to be a consistent liberal), liberalism as an ideology has been attacking and undermining their foundations for years. Remember "Hey, hey, ho, ho, western civ has got to go?" There goes your symphony and chorale. It's no coincidence that CSU Chico has eliminated its strings and organ programs - too "eurocentric", you see - and replaced them with classes in electronic noise, hip hop, and MTV.

Liberal attacks on religion, the Boy Scouts, homeschooling, religious education and traditional families are so common as to barely raise eyebrows anymore. Agriculture is constantly under fire by environmentalists who would prefer the entire valley be returned to wilderness.

Chico, nevertheless, retains all of these great things and is therefore a good place for conservatives to live and raise their families.

Liberals aren't attacking those things, people who have different ideas are expressing their opinions. Liberal, conservative or other. And that isn't the same as "attacking" unless you don't understand the word. You can find that stuff wherever you go, not just Chico. As far as the music goes..yes, things change. Got a problem with that? It's ok, you and me will die and then someone else can complain how their electronic noise hip hop MTV music has been replaced by....whatever.

Todays strange is tomorrows traditional.

[WesternPilgrim]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

All that water was supplied by the government at below market prices.

Spoken like a true libertarian with no conception whatsoever of the common good - a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

[WesternPilgrim]

Originally Posted by TrueTimbers

Last I checked the definition of the word Conserve is: Protect (something, esp. an environmentally or culturally important place or thing) from harm or destruction.

It is an oxymoron that you greedy rape and pillage types call yourselves conservatives..

Conservatism has no definition apart from a specific historical and cultural context. In the United States, it means the conservation of our western Christian heritage, which upholds the quaint old notion that the earth was made for man, not man for the earth.

The delta smelt will not become extinct, nor will the salmon that feed upon it, but if its population must be reduced for the flourishing of humanity, the loss is negligible. This happens in nature all the time apart from human intervention and the environmentalists don't cry about it. Nature adjusts.

[WesternPilgrim]

Originally Posted by Ceece

..yes, things change. Got a problem with that?

"Change" is another buzzword that in and of itself means precisely nothing. Some changes are good, some are bad. You should applaud the good ones and deplore the bad ones.

[WesternPilgrim]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Todays strange is tomorrows traditional.

True. There's nothing wrong with "strange" per se. I'm pretty strange myself. The problem is that yesterday's evil is today's normal. The question is whether yesterday was right and today is wrong on any particular issue. Answering this question requires a little more gravitas than personal opinion.

[TrueTimbers]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

Conservatism has no definition apart from a specific historical and cultural context. In the United States, it means the conservation of our western Christian heritage, which upholds the quaint old notion that the earth was made for man, not man for the earth.

The delta smelt will not become extinct, nor will the salmon that feed upon it, but if its population must be reduced for the flourishing of humanity, the loss is negligible. This happens in nature all the time apart from human intervention and the environmentalists don't cry about it. Nature adjusts.

I do admire your clear concise posting style... You are good at making your points...


What happens when "nature adjusts" by making the planet inhospitable to human existence? Then what you say that it is "gods will" the rapture, and his wrath is brought down by all the "sinners"..... When in fact it was greed and from my perspective a diseased and mutated interpertation of that "quaint old notion"..

I for one am not so confident that for example the salmon will not become extinct... Eco systems are complex and intertwined, not a place for lay people to make assumptions, nor a place for the thought that "god" will take care of his people... No I see it as a terrible slippery slope, where greed creates imbalance...

You did not address my point that taking all the water for the fields can/did or will potential cause hardship for those down stream, such as the salmon fisherman... I see this shortcoming over and over again in folks who feel everything is for their taking, with the disguise that it is some how "gods will"...

Where is the Christian compassion for others in that... Sure does not seem very Christ like to me...

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

Conservatism has no definition apart from a specific historical and cultural context. In the United States, it means the conservation of our western Christian heritage, which upholds the quaint old notion that the earth was made for man, not man for the earth.

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No it doesn't. Conservatism is aberrant mental condition identified by the persons continual state of fear, and reflection back to a non existent "golden age" where all was wonderful, you know, aside from things like segregation.

According to your definition Jews and Muslim and Hindu and Sikh Americans could not be conservatives.

In this country Conservatives have opposed everything good for this country, including this country.

[wburg]

Prejudiced, Conservative People Probably Stupid, Says Science

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

In this country Conservatives have opposed everything good for this country, including this country.

Liberals have destroyed, or are attempting to destroy, everything that is, or has been, good for this country. The aberration that infects only one out of every five adults is the root cause of virtually every problem that our nation has faced.