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Old 06-01-2013, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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I didn't vote for it.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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That's rich, calling something a failure that hasn't been built yet. One day we'll catch up with the rest of the civilized world, cut back on our slavery to petroleum etc.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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It's all part of the right wing plan to bring lawsuits in order to delay the program and drive up costs. Then they can try to kill it claiming the costs are too high even though they were the ones who drove up the costs with massive changes in the route (doubling the total miles of track), caused it to go slower (because they all demanded it zig-zag all over to pick up a useless little town in their district), and delayed it with lawsuit after lawsuit. In the end they'll lose all the lawsuits but the delays and court costs will just keep driving costs up and it is all the fault of Republicans who did it intentionally.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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It's all part of the right wing plan to bring lawsuits in order to delay the program and drive up costs.
Predictable, partisan response. Maybe there just isn't any money rather than a vast, right wing conspiracy. Think it through for yourself for once.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Even the OP's link says it was delayed over a lawsuit so, yes, one of us should learn to think a little but I'm afraid it is you. BTW I very much would like to see the high speed rail route changed back to the original one voters approved (going up the I5 corridor) instead of the garbage route which the Republicans in the state legislature changed it to. If the route was restored to the original one then that would be an immensely positive development.

It won't happen though and we'll be forced to swallow the Republican poison pill wrt the horrible central valley zig-zagging route which will never be high speed. It's just dishonest for Republicans to sabotage the project and then say "SEE! See how government couldn't get it done?!" because Republicans are the problem with their dishonesty and sabotage.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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It's all part of the right wing plan to bring lawsuits in order to delay the program and drive up costs. Then they can try to kill it claiming the costs are too high even though they were the ones who drove up the costs with massive changes in the route (doubling the total miles of track), caused it to go slower (because they all demanded it zig-zag all over to pick up a useless little town in their district), and delayed it with lawsuit after lawsuit. In the end they'll lose all the lawsuits but the delays and court costs will just keep driving costs up and it is all the fault of Republicans who did it intentionally.
Thanks for posting. But here's what I don't get: wasn't it a Repub. governator who launched the project in the first place?
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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It would have made more sense to run this train from Sacto San Fran.
How would they do that?! There's hardly enough distance between Sac and SF (or Oakland) to make good use of the HS aspect. And to get to SF, they'd either have to build a bridge, or go around San Jose.

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Thanks for posting. But here's what I don't get: wasn't it a Repub. governator who launched the project in the first place?
Yes, but sadly it is his party which opposed him and the will of the people and who have been using lawsuits and no less than 19 route changes since it was passed to delay and drive up costs. The governator's heart was in the right place while his party was practicing scorched earth behind the scenes.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: SGV, CA
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If we didn't spend so much time politicking and just built the damn thing it would be up and running already.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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Predictable, partisan response. Maybe there just isn't any money rather than a vast, right wing conspiracy. Think it through for yourself for once.
Wait until the environmentalists get involved. Hey change the track it impacts a snail, .... etc.
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