Should California implement a 2 weeks guaranteed paid vacation for all workers? (Taft: health insurance, attorney)

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

I believ the parents generally should be making decisions for their children.

I believe in environmental protection, but not to the current regulatory extent.

The federal governments job has always be to control the inflow of migrants and policies need to be out in place to punish those that have entered illegally and those that employ illegals.

Generally I'm for free trade of product as well.

I don't have a problem with public infrastructure but it needs to be well thought out and benefit society as a whole, and not special select groups. School vouchers need to be encouraged and public schools need to be accountable to the people in how they spend money and educate children.


It is really simple, I believe in as much Liberty as possible and the governments role is to secure said Liberty. In extreamly cases where the free market cannot provide adaquite services for society then the government takes over that role in as limited way as possible to achieve the results not being met by the free market.

IMO, you sound like a modern voice for the collective spirit of the founding fathers, and that is as it should be. I wonder what percentage of current new adults in the U.S. were ever encouraged to think like this.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by RMESMH

IMO, you sound like a modern voice for the collective spirit of the founding fathers, and that is as it should be. I wonder what percentage of current new adults in the U.S. were ever encouraged to think like this.

Very few.

People, in general, lack the courage to take responsibility for their lot in life. Not everyone had the same opportunity but everyone has the chance to improve their situation. Those that knowledge that and then work towards improving should be rewarded instead of those that always blame outside factors and want the government to somehow improve their situation.

[YoungTraveler2011]

No. They should implement a 30 vacation day policy like the rest of the world.

[marcopolo666]

Originally Posted by PCALMike

People in California get burned out like crazy, yet most people cant take any vacation time either because they dont get it from their employer or are pressured to stay on the job to stay "loyal".

California is the 6th largest economy in the world, and in all the other economies ahead of CA all workers get guaranteed paid leave.

CA got to be #6 because nobody takes vacation!!

[dtran103]

“Most people?” I don’t think I’ve ever applied or worked in a job that didn’t offer at least a 2 week paid vacation. Making it a law doesn’t really matters one way or the other because it’s already the norm.

[PCALMike]

Originally Posted by dtran103

“Most people?” I don’t think I’ve ever applied or worked in a job that didn’t offer at least a 2 week paid vacation. Making it a law doesn’t really matters one way or the other because it’s already the norm.

Polls show that in a given year, more than half of all workers dont take any vacation at all. People are afraid of the consequences even if they are "offered" 2 or more weeks paid vacation. Making it a law matters a lot actually. When workers are required to take time off, the employer cant whip the workers into submission and punish people in the name of "freedom and liberty and the founding fathers".

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by dtran103

“Most people?” I don’t think I’ve ever applied or worked in a job that didn’t offer at least a 2 week paid vacation. Making it a law doesn’t really matters one way or the other because it’s already the norm.

Right. If you haven't experienced it personally : it must be the "norm".

[Tulemutt]

Yeah. Why should government get involved shaping a healthier society? Stupid.

More than half of American workers left vacation days unused in 2015 according to a study conducted by Project Time Off, an organization started by the U.S. Travel Association.
Yet not taking a vacation could be adding to your stress—and hurting your career. The study found workers who took at least 11 days off a year were more likely to have received a raise or bonus in the past 3 years than those who took less than 10 vacation days.
"Americans work really hard, but we need vacations to give us the break, so we can work smart," Katie Denis, senior director of Project Time Off told CNBC's "On the Money" in an interview.

So why are people not taking a vacation? ...

Why your dedication to the office could be damaging your career

The government ... would actually be helping businesses by mandating workers take vacations.

Read the article. Think a moment. It's simple.

Ah Libertarianism! The fantasy that without government meddling everyone will act intelligently and responsibly toward themselves and all others. Which incredible naivete has been disproven by every second of human existence since mankind left the caves 10,000 years ago.

[BicoastalAnn]

No, I don't think employers should be forced to offer this but I know I won't work anywhere that offers less than 3 weeks paid vacation (unless that area mandates separate sick time like in SF). I've turned down jobs because of poor benefits... if they still want to save pennies that way then good luck to them.

If companies did this I think we'd see wages being lowered to recoup the cost. So while I would personally love 2 months' vacation, it isn't worth it to me if my wages were lower. Most countries' average net salaries are still quite a bit lower than ours. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...y_average_wage This could be for many reasons but I suspect employee costs have something to do with it.

Edit: All that being said, if the CEOs of our all American companies were to say, "I'll give my employees a month of vacation and take it out of my enormous salary instead of lowering wages or cutting back on other employee perks" then that would be a no-brainer. But of course American CEOs don't dominate global lists of the most wealthy because they make decisions like this and you can't force them to.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Yeah. Why should government get involved shaping a healthier society? Stupid.

The government ... would actually be helping businesses by mandating workers take vacations.

Read the article. Think a moment. It's simple.

Ah Libertarianism! The fantasy that without government meddling everyone will act intelligently and responsibly toward themselves and all others. Which incredible naivete has been disproven by every second of human existence since mankind left the caves 10,000 years ago.

Ah liberalism, pretending someone four thousands miles away from me knows what is best for me and my family.