The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Long Beach, Glendale: lists, 2014, rental)

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

The articles linked at least a dozen times in this thread recently quote numerous sources, not just the mayor. Go back and review. Spoon feed yourself. It’s all there. Over and over and over again.

Ok I bit and did some scrolling. Garcetti, a homeless lady, and one compliance officer standing next to Garcetti said there's illegal dumping. That's not irrefutable data carefully accrued and cross checked. Nice try... Dr Drew def does not blame dumping for our trash problem and he lives in LA.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Finper

Ok I bit and did some scrolling. Garcetti, a homeless lady, and one compliance officer standing next to Garcetti said there's illegal dumping. That's not irrefutable data carefully accrued and cross checked. Nice try... Dr Drew def does not blame dumping for our trash problem and he lives in LA.

Mighty small bite ... here’s just one example you missed in past links quoting representative Estella Lopez with Business Improvement District, explaining why the problem has been growing:

Mom-and-pop businesses either let go of this trash hauling service after a few months because it was too expensive, or they simply didn't sign up for all the service that they really need," said Estella Lopez with Business Improvement District.

Lopez said things went from bad to worse with illegal dumping when the city scrapped the old way of hauling out trash well over a year ago. She said under that system, people could bid for the best price for trash service from a range of different trash-hauling companies.

Under the new system, they have to work with a union franchise hauling service designated to pick up trash in their specific area.

Lopez said the cost of trash-hauling service escalated upwards of 400%, leaving some small businesses opting out of using the service.

Business Improvement District officials said between 2017 and 2018, there's been an 11% increase in illegal dumping in the industrial district in downtown L.A.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Well, you are partly right (above).
1. No one knows who you are or where you live.

2. Everyone knows there’s lots of trash on LA’s streets ... so you aren’t providing any new, unique information or perspective by saying so.

3. Where the trash comes from is also well known and indisputably corroborated now.

4. What you say about who's responsible for most of the trash is wrong, and you know it, so disputing it is appropriate

5. Your characterization of where I live is also verifiably wrong, and you have been corrected on that repeatedly so you are clearly trolling which is in violation of TOS

6. Where I live also makes no difference to the veracity of my posts.

So you are pretty much batting zero and against TOS.

Keep it up.

We've been through all this before. This thread is like that Star Trek TNG episode where the Enterprise is caught in a time loop.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

There's always some reason for something to get screwed up with these politicians.

"In an unwelcome turn for a city suffering from a homelessness crisis, federal housing officials said they have denied Los Angeles $80 million in funds, citing long-standing failures by local leaders to ensure that properties built with government money are accessible to those who use wheelchairs or have other disabilities.

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson informed Mayor Eric Garcetti in a letter Friday that his agency was rebuffing funding proposals submitted by city officials last month."

U.S. housing officials withhold $80 million from Los Angeles, alleging discrimination:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...abled-20190720

Poor Crapcetti And the hits keep coming. They only had 7 years to comply. Now it's the Feds fault they're not getting the money of course Oh the poor Angelenos.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Mighty small bite ... here’s just one example you missed in past links quoting representative Estella Lopez with Business Improvement District, explaining why the problem has been growing:

LA is raping small business. I don't blame some business's for dumping. I would too if my business was there. But that's one lady talking about downtown. Nice try again

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

We've been through all this before. This thread is like that Star Trek TNG episode where the Enterprise is caught in a time loop.

You’re the one trolling the issues that have been proven contradictory to your claims. Over and over and over for you, because it’s a game you enjoy for some reason. Several others, including me, aren’t going to let you control the message by promoting myths.

The trash piles are well described to include tires, refrigerators, produce packing crates ... and on and on ... stuff that homeless people don’t generate. They don‘t have the money or the transportation. At worst they raid existing piles of illegally dumped trash and score whatever is easy and close they can use for whatever temporary purpose.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Finper

Poor Crapcetti And the hits keep coming. They only had 7 years to comply. Now it's the Feds fault they're not getting the money of course Oh the poor Angelenos.

No question about it.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Finper

LA is raping small business. I don't blame some business's for dumping. I would too if my business was there. But that's one lady talking about downtown. Nice try again

That “one lady” is a representative of the Business Improvement District”.

Here. It’s the information age. And you’ve just demonstrated you can’t navigate it. Or wait! Maybe it’s because you don’t want to read proof that flies in the face of your ideologies? Huh. Who knew?

BRIEF
Who's responsible for LA's mounting illegal dumping problem?

By Nicole Wrona
Published Dec. 8, 2014

A report penned by City Senior livability advisor Mark A. Thomas outlines the issues facing Los Angeles as trash piles up in alleys and neighborhoods.
The report places blame on the community, including residents and businesses, for disposing of waste, and on the city for its failure to enforce anti-dumping laws.
The city spends more than $12 million per year to collect abandoned furniture, e-waste, and other items. But it hasn’t been able to tackle the mounting problem.

These findings were gleaned through interviews with residents, staff at City Hall, business owners, various city agencies, and quality-of-life advocates. Some neighborhood associations have banded together to clean up debris, while other communities have launched complaints against the city, questioning why more hasn’t been done to tackle the mess.

There are no clear numbers as to the volume of debris being dumped. Organized cleanups in South L.A. yielded as much as 100 tons of waste from just one alley. A community non-profit reports that it collects six tons of trash daily in the downtown Fashion District alone.

One problem is that communities, both residential and commercial, have no formal waste collection services. In fact, only 35% of streets are regularly cleaned. One potential solution discussed in the report is to create a task force to formulate and carry out a management plan.
https://www.wastedive.com/news/whos-...roblem/341158/

Recommended Reading:

LOS ANGELES TIMES
Blunt report finds L.A. isn't keeping up with removing dumped trashoffsite link
https://www.latimes.com/local/califo...203-story.html

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Here. It’s the information age. And you’ve just demonstrated you can’t navigate it. Or wait! Maybe it’s because you don’t want to read proof that flies in the face of your ideologies? Huh. Who knew?

There are currently three threads about trash in L.A. It might be hard for people to keep up.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

There are currently three threads about trash in L.A. It might be hard for people to keep up.

Guess some folks can’t find what they’re not looking for, eh? (Yes, double negative.). Too dizzy with the avalanche of links?