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Old 06-23-2020, 11:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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https://edsource.org/2020/superinten...-budget/634154

Superintendents, school boards attack ban on layoffs they suspect could be in state budget



Whooo. That other shoe is dropping hard.

Given the rough outline for reopening schools, we'll actually need more staff than ever. As it is right now, it would be next to impossible to implement the plan our district (the second largest in CA) is proposing with less staffing. It's a huge mess. The thing is, without schools, there's no childcare and without that, a lot of people can't go back to work even if they wanted. This should be the priority given what's at stake. People care more about beaches and bars and gyms though.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:07 AM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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There are way to many and completely unnecessary $200,000 administrators in our schools. that's why school cost is so high to the taxpayers.

Cuts and layoffs usually start with classified employees who aren't in that league --usually hourly and without benefits. There will always be fat to trim, but what I'm saying is a fact of how these layoffs go.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:39 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Cuts and layoffs usually start with classified employees who aren't in that league --usually hourly and without benefits.
Classified hourly employees of public school districts most certainly receive benefits, both health and retirement. And their positions most likely won't be cut, due to increased need for sanitation of classrooms, laptops, etc, once schools reopen.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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Classified hourly employees of public school districts most certainly receive benefits, both health and retirement. And their positions most likely won't be cut, due to increased need for sanitation of classrooms, laptops, etc, once schools reopen.

Not all of them and contracts vary district to district which there are a lot.
But, yes. I agree now more than ever the schools will need more staffing. That's precisely what I just said. The plan our district has put together won't work without lot's of people to implement it; more than normal will be necessary.
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Old 06-23-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Classified hourly employees of public school districts most certainly receive benefits, both health and retirement. And their positions most likely won't be cut, due to increased need for sanitation of classrooms, laptops, etc, once schools reopen.

It depends on the nature of the "classified" employee. For instance, we have 10 school districts here in the Antelope Valley (yeah, I know ) and two of those districts have some of their classified staff (instructional aides) working three hour shifts so that they don't have to pay them for six hours and provide state benefits. I think they can opt to pay into CalPERS, but that's the only "benefit" they get.
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Old 06-24-2020, 08:02 AM
 
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Not all of them and contracts vary district to district which there are a lot.
But, yes. I agree now more than ever the schools will need more staffing. That's precisely what I just said. The plan our district has put together won't work without lot's of people to implement it; more than normal will be necessary.
How will they increase staffing with reduced budgets (10% cuts in most cases)? Serious question.

I see a lot of non-permenant staff being laid off (if not already), and top heavy organizations getting trimmed as well. At least that's how we would do it in the private sector.
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Old 06-24-2020, 08:08 AM
 
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so easy with these liberals - you point out reason for companies and people leaving and they attack you instead of responding to the dumb ideas their leaders keep pressing on with like SF council

its plain and simple people and companies want to keep the money they earn and not have liberal progressives confiscate it and spend on illegals, high wages and benefits for state and govt workers or dumbass project like the train to nowhere.
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Old 06-24-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...243608437.html

https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...ronavirus-2020

Numerous Analysts Warn California Economic Recovery could be "slow"

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California’s economic challenges are greater than every state in the nation except New York, a new study by the Community and Labor Center at UC Merced found.

“The economic problems in California are much deeper than most of the rest of the country,” Edward Orozco Flores, faculty affiliate with the UC Merced Center, told McClatchy.

A big reason for the state’s somber outlook could be that it shut down sooner than most states and has been somewhat slower to reopen, said Flores, who co-wrote the report with Ana Padilla, the center’s executive director.

The state lost 16.4% of its jobs between February and April, about 3 million jobs, but in May added back about 78,000 jobs, or 0.4%.

Those percentages are worse than national averages. The country lost 15.5% of its jobs between February and April, and last month recovered 2.9%
California so far is recovering 7x slower than other states in its economic reopening.

I've been saying pretty much the same thing for months. The prolonged lockdown, much longer than states who have recovered faster, the unfriendly business environment, and the permenant closure of some businesses who couldn't weather the storm are going to hurt California for YEARS to come. California reset it's economy over a decade based on faulty "science". It's pretty sad.
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Old 06-24-2020, 10:49 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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The Golden State’s gradual recovery will probably mirror the nation’s trajectory, according to a new UCLA forecast.

“The public health crisis of the pandemic morphed into a depression-like crisis in the [U.S.] economy,” wrote David Shulman, a senior economist at UCLA Anderson Forecast.

Comparing California with the overall United States, the UCLA forecast said the state’s disproportionate reliance on international tourism would mean a somewhat slower recovery in leisure and hospitality and retail. Transportation and warehousing sectors could also see a more sluggish return in California than nationwide because of the U.S.-China trade war, which disproportionately affects California’s massive ports.

On the other hand, the Golden State should recover faster than the overall nation in business, scientific and technical services and in the information sector “due to the demand for new technologies for the new way we are working and socializing.”


https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...ronavirus-2020
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Old 06-24-2020, 12:41 PM
 
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I've been saying pretty much the same thing for months. The prolonged lockdown, much longer than states who have recovered faster, the unfriendly business environment, and the permenant closure of some businesses who couldn't weather the storm are going to hurt California for YEARS to come. California reset it's economy over a decade based on faulty "science". It's pretty sad.
Not as sad as your hobby man. How many hours are you up to now, trolling a California sub-forum on an urban planning site? I mean, you've almost single-handedly ruined things in here, so I guess at least you have something to show for it.
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