They Said the Recall Was Going To Be A Circus... (rent, vs)

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Its mainly Trumpers who supported the recall and they'd be against Newsom or any other Democrat to begin with.

Who wants to recall Gov. Newsom? Signatures point to Trump’s California:
https://www.latimes.com/projects/new...rnians-signed/

[CA4Now]

A recent Public Policy Institute of California poll of likely voters found most Californians — 56% — oppose recalling Newsom, while 40% support it. Conversely, a week before the 2003 recall, an L.A. Times poll found 56% of likely voters would vote yes on recalling Gov. Gray Davis, while 42% would vote no. Just 2% said they were undecided.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...res-your-guide

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

You're right, I looked it up: On the Davis recall ballot, you still got to vote on Davis' replacement even if you voted "No" on the recall. I assume the Newsom ballot will be the same. This will lead to some interesting game theory for the anti-recall voters. Maybe I'll write in Tag, the name of Cox's bear.

It took a judge to make that so back in 2003. It's also why it's absolutely disgusting that Newsom and the Newsomites are so hellbent on keeping a fallback Democratic candidate off of part B of the ballot. For a guy so convinced this is illegitimate and a "coup", etc., etc. he's sure scared of his former challengers being available to voters. I can't stand Villaraigosa but if he does throw his hat into the ring, I will not only vote 'yes' to recall but he will be my choice to replace Newsom.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Well, it basically is because there's no magic bullet candidate who is inspiring enough people to vote against Newsom. Many people don't love him but will likely vote for him because there's nobody better.

But Newsom has a vested interest in making sure there are no better options so he's really working the "partisan power grab" angle of this thing. Cox and his beast aren't a threat here. Newsom wants to make sure Democratic voters don't get a choice in the matter and that means bullying his own party to stay the F out of the race. The optics are stunningly bad. For some reason, it doesn't seem to be hurting his image which says a lot about state politics.

Its mainly Trumpers who supported the recall and they'd be against Newsom or any other Democrat to begin with. They're using this recall for political purposes only. Unfortunately, the Republican party doesn't do very well in statewide elections here in California these days.

No. The recall is completely legitimate and all elections are political. The above is what Newsom wants you to believe and he's counting on you to ignore the messy intra-party thuggery he's perpetrating. And even if it was true that all 2M people who signed the petition were Trump voters, it doesn't mean Newsom can disenfranchise their vote.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by joosoon

But Newsom has a vested interest in making sure there are no better options so he's really working the "partisan power grab" angle of this thing. Cox and his beast aren't a threat here. Newsom wants to make sure Democratic voters don't get a choice in the matter and that means bullying his own party to stay the F out of the race. The optics are stunningly bad. For some reason, it doesn't seem to be hurting his image which says a lot about state politics.

He's a politician. Of course he doesn't want any stronger competitors in the race. All politicians try to push their competitive advantage. Why are you acting like this is the worst thing ever?

[V8 Vega]

Now that the Democrats have gotten away with it you can bet everything you have that the Democrats will do massive cheating to save their person. They already have by throwing out legitimate signatures on recall petitions.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

He's a politician. Of course he doesn't want any stronger competitors in the race. All politicians try to push their competitive advantage. Why are you acting like this is the worst thing ever?

It's undemocratic. This isn't a regular election and he wants to control the choices offered to you and I and everyone else by way of fixing the ballot to look unattractive to middle-of-the-road voters. That's not the worst thing ever but it's pretty shady even from a normal "it's politics" standpoint.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by joosoon

It's undemocratic. This isn't a regular election and he wants to control the choices offered to you and I and everyone else by way of fixing the ballot to look unattractive to middle-of-the-road voters. That's not the worst thing ever but it's pretty shady even from a normal "it's politics" standpoint.

Nonsense, Newsom can't stop anyone from putting their name on the ballot. And how is he "fixing the ballot" he never paid anyone to run, it's not his fault if only losers want to vie for the job.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Nonsense, Newsom can't stop anyone from putting their name on the ballot. And how is he "fixing the ballot" he never paid anyone to run, it's not his fault if only losers want to vie for the job.

Newsom's lead henchman publicist said something to the effect that Villaraigosa would "poison his legacy" if he dared challenge Newsom in this election. That's not exactly subtle. He wants that ballot to offer no good alternatives for moderate Democrats. That's precisely an attempt to tailor the ballot to his advantage. You don't see it because your support for him only suffers trace amounts of deviation. I still don't get the allure. It's as if Democrats are pretending there's no other person on the planet who can run this state.


I will tell you this though, if somehow the recall succeeds and a Republican takes the reins, your opinion over the ESA lawsuit will make a dramatic shift. Imagine how quickly the state legislature will act to end the one-man rule Newsom has exploited for over a year if that were to happen.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Newsom's lead henchman publicist said something to the effect that Villaraigosa would "poison his legacy" if he dared challenge Newsom in this election.

Didn't we debate this on one of the other recall threads? Newsom meant Villaraigosa's legacy. And it's interesting to read the slant of the Politico article about Newsom's "attack dog" Clegg....(the article below is from March 24).

https://www.politico.com/states/cali...ret-it-1369438