07-21-2023, 02:51 PM
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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ovi8
Let me ask this then - does congestion in the park get a lot better toward the late afternoon/evening so we can actually drive from the Valley on through southward to hit Mariposa & our south exit hotel?
We entered midweek through the south entrance and again I don’t know what it will be like when you visit but for now you need to get in early and head to the shuttle area first thing as by 9:30 AM there was no parking available in the entire park. It wasn’t any better when we left at 3 PM. The shuttles were overwhelmed like a NYC subway car. Depending on you physical stamina they do rent bicycles next to the store and there were people riding bicycles everywhere to get around. Once you are in the park you can drive around but you will be fighting with everyone else for a parking spot.
I wish someone else would chime in who recently went there because the traffic and congestion blew us away.
This wasn’t my first trip to Yosemite but after this my wife and I both agreed it is no longer a bucket list item for us unless we were hikers. It is beautiful and amazing but again unless we were hikers I would not return.
Your mind is made up but the twins and my wife and I enjoyed returning to Sequoia. Definitely less stressful an we got more out of it.
We witnessed and experienced everything in the article below.
https://www.sfgate.com/california-pa...m-18175130.php
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07-21-2023, 04:18 PM
Location: Long Island
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The park gate (South or West for example) - they don't open until 8am to take payment? Meaning if you're there by 6a-7am, you're stuck waiting anyway?
07-21-2023, 04:44 PM
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ovi8
The park gate (South or West for example) - they don't open until 8am to take payment? Meaning if you're there by 6a-7am, you're stuck waiting anyway?
It's open 24/7 except for Hetch Hetchy. You can pay on the way in or out. The NPS warnings about multi-hour delays are daunting, though.
07-21-2023, 05:40 PM
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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It's open 24/7 except for Hetch Hetchy. You can pay on the way in or out. The NPS warnings about multi-hour delays are daunting, though.
I didn’t realize the gates were open 24/7. The wife had been following the traffic reports for weeks and she just told me we had to be at the south entrance before 8 AM which we were. It was just amazing that in an hour there was no parking to be found in the entire park.
I know the OP has made their mind up to visit but I still think unless you plan on hiking or camping I would pass. I just hope you don’t experience the crowds and traffic we did.
07-21-2023, 05:44 PM
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Hearst Castle in San Simeon would be a four and a half hour drive from Los Angeles. I would suggest visiting the Getty Center above the Sepulveda Pass (I-405) and the Huntington Library & Art Museum in San Marino northeast of downtown Los Angeles.
They are bringing teens. Two museums?
07-21-2023, 07:57 PM
Location: Earth
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Yosemite is suuuuper crowded this time of year. Just lettin you know.
07-22-2023, 08:10 AM
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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This might help alleviate traffic a little, but it is still going to be tough going unless you arrive early.
https://www.sfgate.com/yosemite/arti...n-18254504.php
07-22-2023, 08:20 AM
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I should say....there are people like my wife who can wait in traffic for hours at a place like Yosemite, walk/hike in crowds with cellphones and personal music speakers going off, and still say they 'saw' Yosemite and had a good time. Sometimes I envy them. But I need a lot more than that to really feel like I experienced Yosemite.
07-22-2023, 09:05 AM
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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rokuremote
I should say....there are people like my wife who can wait in traffic for hours at a place like Yosemite, walk/hike in crowds with cellphones and personal music speakers going off, and still say they 'saw' Yosemite and had a good time. Sometimes I envy them. But I need a lot more than that to really feel like I experienced Yosemite.
I feel the same way. I do realize that my wife and I were very fortunate to have traveled as much as we have over the years. We were able to visit so many places both domestically and internationally before everything got so crazy.
Yosemite is beautiful but a mere ten years ago visiting during the summer was very relaxed and not hectic. Parking availability was readily available. Tourism post covid 19 has rebounded tremendously and I don’t think we will ever see leisure travel return to normal where you didn’t need to make reservations online to visit so many places as you do now.
07-22-2023, 10:56 AM
Location: So Ca
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Is it feasible to enter Yosemite from the south entrance (where our hotel is) and visit Mariposa Grove first, then shuttle toward Yosemite Valley?....
Not sure about the congestion part. You might want to contact your hotel.
https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/faq.htm
https://www.nps.gov/yose/getinvolved...management.htm
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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