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Unread 02-11-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Default Another police attack.

Disgusting. Even the police chief's response for the behavior is unacceptable. Maybe the guy wasn't answering the questions because he wasn't all there. He was drunk and most of these homeless have mental disorders. Oh and, "punched the officer in the shoulder." Maybe he was too drunk to stand up and when he fell over he fell into the police officer. Thank god for the patriot filming this otherwise the police would have gotten away. We have to say NO to these police thugs abusing people.

Look for yourself:

KSEE 24 NEWS - Local News - Video - CAUGHT ON TAPE: Fresno Police Officers Violent Arrest of a Homeless Man
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Unread 02-11-2009, 11:30 AM
 
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I'm from the Govt. and I'm here to help. Scary words.

Hey they are just here protect and serve (themselves).

What a load of crap. Anyone still wonder why pigs are disliked?

And please, please, don't give me the tired "few bad apples" excuse. I have never, ever met a cop that I thought was a "normal" person and I'm a completely law abiding citizen.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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That last punch was unquestionably out of line. I believe the others were. But the last one, the dude has both hands behind him. $%#@ that cop. Two cops can't restrain a mentally ill, drunk, homeless guy? A couple of *******.
The police chief's response was typical.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 03:58 PM
 
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Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer has wanted a standing independent police auditor or independent citizens audit committee for years to investigate cases like this. That prevents him from being accused of coverups.

Fresno's former mayor Alan Autry spent the last few years trying to set up an independent police auditor or independent audit committee.

The new mayor, Ashley Swearingen says she is going to renew the call for it.

The Central California Criminal Justice Committee, the local NAACP chapter, the local Mexican American Political Association chapter and others are all for it also.

But the Fresno city council keeps saying no.

Maybe they will finally change their mind.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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,,But the Fresno city council keeps saying no.

Maybe they will finally change their mind.
Only after a large settlement in the millions or a council member gets beaten.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: East Side SD
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no wonder you hear the poor class sayin "f*** the poleece" this is some sh*t. they could easily stop him with out beatin the crap outta him. that swhy people think that cops are all really corrupt.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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While it does not justify the use of excess force, the media is reporting that the homeless person had a record that included:
  • February 2004, arrested by sheriff's deputies for resisting arrest, threatening a witness and false imprisonment with violence after a family disturbance at his parents' home.
  • September 2004, Beaty was charged with assaulting two Fresno police officers, false imprisonment and dissuading a witness by force for a separate incident at his parents' home.
  • Violated probation in 2006 by assaulting an elderly person and failing to obey court orders.
  • He had 2 outstanding warrants when approached by the officers this time.
Unfortunately it appears he is a disturbed individual (his sister says he is a paranoid schizophrenic) with a history of violence against others including against law enforcement officers.

Most people do not have past charges of assault on law enforcement officers no matter what their place in society is or their problems.

Again, it does not justify excessive force. However it would be interesting to see what happened before this video clip.
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Only after a large settlement in the millions or a council member gets beaten.
The police officers union has been opposed to a local independent police auditor saying the DA and attorney general fill that role.

Hopefully this time the city council will finally listen to the mayor and police chief. I seem to recall they have been asked for an auditor every year for the last 5 years or so.
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Unread 02-14-2009, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Pleasanton Ca
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I grew up respecting the law. I go on a few forums were the police are always critisized, most of these are by wanna be thugs. The things they say and how they react to things are exactly what you don't want in a cop. Their propensity for revenge, their sense of right and wrong and what they think is ok in society ( like don't be a snitch) The strange thing is later on you find out some of these same people wind up becoming police. WTF???? How do they get past the psych tests.

Anyway I always thought they were just hateful of cops but more and more I see cops abusing their power. I know some cops that had serious " macho attitudes and egos". Some told me they joined because they wanted to into high crime areas and kick asses. How is it that these people get into the force??

In the last few years I am starting to see that while not all cops are bad, most aren't, there's just some that should be locked up.

Personally I'd like to see that one cop get locked up in a room in a fair fight and not protected by his partner holding down someone while he punches away.
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Unread 02-14-2009, 12:40 AM
 
Location: southern california
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pretty much any picture taken of a suspect on the ground with police hitting him is taken as police brutality. even if he is resisting arrest. tell me if he wont put on the cuffs. what should the cop do?
let him go? what if he hit the cop b4 the cop put him on the ground, let it go? it was just a misunderstanding? is it ever appopriate to arrest or use force on a citizen, i mean ever? if that is so lets stop sending cops out to calls, lets send social workers or counselors.
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Unread 02-14-2009, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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pretty much any picture taken of a suspect on the ground with police hitting him is taken as police brutality. even if he is resisting arrest. tell me if he wont put on the cuffs. what should the cop do?
let him go? what if he hit the cop b4 the cop put him on the ground, let it go? it was just a misunderstanding? is it ever appopriate to arrest or use force on a citizen, i mean ever? if that is so lets stop sending cops out to calls, lets send social workers or counselors.
First and foremost, the police have to act like professionals. Absolute professionals. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Those two guys probably get paid 7000-8000K dollars a month, along with an outrageous benefit package. I'm tired of this boo-hoo for the cops crap. They didn't need to sock that guy in the face. They chose to do it the easy way. Well, I say they get paid to do it the hard way if need be, to remain professional acting police officers. So what if he hit the cop before he went down. Then he gets charged with assaulting a police officer. The cops aren't supposed to exact revenge. Resisting arrest? Mentally ill people may tend to do that. You don't sock them up in the face while they're laying on the ground. Force during an arrest may be necessary, of course. They didn't need to punch that guy like that. If that was the only way they could have arrested that guy, then they need retraining.
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