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Old 09-09-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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^^^^ I bought a quite large, well built, metal bucket at the Dollarama for $3.


EXACT same bucket at Crappy Tire? $14.99.

Same goes for metal plant hangers. Same thing, WILDLY different prices.
Yep, we can buy a lot of stuff really cheap at Dollarama, which would cost 3X more in a regular store.

So far I still don't understand why people shop at Loblaw's instead of Nofrills etc when the products are exactly the same. I buy all my fruits from Chinatown grocery stores, where the same peach that is sold for $3.99 at the Metro is for displayed $1.99, sometimes fresher because the turnover is faster.

Some people just mistake higher prices for better qualities. It is the same reason why some people buy those $4.99 toothpaste with fancy packaging instead of the $1.99 ones with exactly the same function. The manufacturers know many people are not intelligent enough so why not gouge them for more profit? They get the prettier packaging and the company makes more money.

I often hear people complain how expensive it is to live in the big cities nowadays but when I look at how they spend their money (not shopping around, not waiting for deals, jump at the newest and prettiest thing), it is not surprising they live paycheck to paycheck.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Yep, we can buy a lot of stuff really cheap at Dollarama, which would cost 3X more in a regular store.

So far I still don't understand why people shop at Loblaw's instead of Nofrills etc when the products are exactly the same. I buy all my fruits from Chinatown grocery stores, where the same peach that is sold for $3.99 at the Metro is for displayed $1.99, sometimes fresher because the turnover is faster.

Some people just mistake higher prices for better qualities. It is the same reason why some people buy those $4.99 toothpaste with fancy packaging instead of the $1.99 ones with exactly the same function. The manufacturers know many people are not intelligent enough so why not gouge them for more profit? They get the prettier packaging and the company makes more money.

I often hear people complain how expensive it is to live in the big cities nowadays but when I look at how they spend their money (not shopping around, not waiting for deals, jump at the newest and prettiest thing), it is not surprising they live paycheck to paycheck.
Big cities tend to reward those who dont mind a little digging and research more than smaller towns, for the simple fact that there are just more options. Yes you pay more when it comes to the big ticket items like housing, but otherwise I find living in a larger city cheaper for everyday goods.

Not to get OT, but your toothpaste example is really one of my major pet peeves. Any Dentist or Hygienist will tell you that any toothpaste with fluoride is fine to use. Paying more for packaging is insane. That is why my tube of AIM from Target for $0.97 works just as fine as any of the others.
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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^^^^ I bought a quite large, well built, metal bucket at the Dollarama for $3.


EXACT same bucket at Crappy Tire? $14.99.

Same goes for metal plant hangers. Same thing, WILDLY different prices.

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Old 09-09-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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^^^^ I bought a quite large, well built, metal bucket at the Dollarama for $3.


EXACT same bucket at Crappy Tire? $14.99.

Same goes for metal plant hangers. Same thing, WILDLY different prices.
It's crazy. I actually like that they're expanded to become Dollarama+ because the quality of stuff has definitely gone up, and it has allowed them to carry a wider range of products. What I like, and what really lacks in US dollar stores, is the uniformity of products, which is precisely because they source so much of their own stuff rather than just stocking junk cast-offs or close-outs. They should really expand to the US once they have saturated Canada - I have no idea why US chains like Dollar Tree don't try to emulate them.

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2) you recognize what I've said in the another thread about the urban area density of Toronto and you are right - in Canamerica Toronto's urban area is about as dense as you can get minus NYC.. It is even slightly more dense than L.A's..

Yes BK and Botti i'm just talking about Canamerica - if we compare GTA density to the more dense European, Asian and Latin American cities (even many African) it is grade 4 - just saying this to preclude your inevitable response
In the minds of many, density is signified by tall buildings. In that way, I personally, I find Toronto's density even more impressive than NYC.

Hear me out! In the central core, NYC definitely has the upper hand on Toronto, but once you move to the suburbs, Toronto gains it back. American suburbs are generally very adverse to density and tall buildings, which you don't see in Toronto. NYC has nothing comparable to a Mississauga, which now has 18 buildings over 30 floors. It doesn't even have a Brampton, which is as suburban as you can get, but still counts 20 buildings around/over 20 floors.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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Suburbs exist because we can't all afford either acreage, or HOUSES in the downtown core. Neither can kids be raised comfortably in condos. It's really as simple as that. No need to condemn them.

It's great that people seek different things in a city, or else we'd all want to live in one place!

For the purposes of my points, I have to define "city" as an economic centre that offers the income potential I find encouraging, with the amenities and recreation opportunities that would make living my life and working toward my goals worthwhile. Winter in Toronto IS enough of a downer for me to leave, and the constant overcast is probably even more of a reason. Also, I like sprawl. I like big open roads, big parking lots, and the "park/do/leave" lifestyle as opposed to the urban pedestrian lifestyle. I have no doubt there's a lot of stuff I don't do in Toronto because I hate driving/parking/walking downtown. I'll take on a desert mountain hiking trail any day, though. The sprawling layout of cities like Phoenix and Orlando offer ME a happier, more comfortable life. I can do Scottsdale or Winter Park when I occasionally want a bit of urbanish feel.

For someone for whom urbanity isn't a primary criteria, there are excellent housing values and QoL to be had in more sprawling urban centres.

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Old 09-09-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Around here, suburbs are where the prices go UP, and in the downtown core, they go DOWN.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Big cities tend to reward those who dont mind a little digging and research more than smaller towns, for the simple fact that there are just more options. Yes you pay more when it comes to the big ticket items like housing, but otherwise I find living in a larger city cheaper for everyday goods.

Not to get OT, but your toothpaste example is really one of my major pet peeves. Any Dentist or Hygienist will tell you that any toothpaste with fluoride is fine to use. Paying more for packaging is insane. That is why my tube of AIM from Target for $0.97 works just as fine as any of the others.
Its funny - i'm not sure during your time here if you checked out some of the flea markets in the burbs... My partner and I recently went to one to buy some Indian jewelry and fabric (totally long story lol).. We went to the flea market on Steeles near airport Road and there was a small farmers market there. I'm telling you, I got two HUGE bags of fruits and vegetable for 12 bucks.. I reckon it would have cost easily double that even at No Frills.. The good thing wasn't just the quantity but quality of the produce - very impressed.. Point being is you have to shop around because man there are some great deals to be found..
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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Suburbs exist because we can't all afford either acreage, or HOUSES in the downtown core. Neither can kids be raised comfortably in condos. It's really as simple as that. No need to condemn them.

It's great that people seek different things in a city, or else we'd all want to live in one place!

For the purposes of my points, I have to define "city" as an economic centre that offers the income potential I find encouraging, with the amenities and recreation opportunities that would make living my life and working toward my goals worthwhile. Winter in Toronto IS enough of a downer for me to leave, and the constant overcast is probably even more of a reason. Also, I like sprawl. I like big open roads, big parking lots, and the "park/do/leave" lifestyle as opposed to the urban pedestrian lifestyle. I have no doubt there's a lot of stuff I don't do in Toronto because I hate driving/parking/walking downtown. I'll take on a desert mountain hiking trail any day, though. The sprawling layout of cities like Phoenix and Orlando offer ME a happier, more comfortable life. I can do Scottsdale or Winter Park when I occasionally want a bit of urbanish feel.

For someone for whom urbanity isn't a primary criteria, there are excellent housing values and QoL to be had in more sprawling urban centres.
Joy. Just imagine all the fun you could have with big parking lots and drive thru chains.

You do realize you are on the Toronto city forum of "City Data", not "Suburbia Data".
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Yep, we can buy a lot of stuff really cheap at Dollarama, which would cost 3X more in a regular store.

So far I still don't understand why people shop at Loblaw's instead of Nofrills etc when the products are exactly the same. I buy all my fruits from Chinatown grocery stores, where the same peach that is sold for $3.99 at the Metro is for displayed $1.99, sometimes fresher because the turnover is faster.

Some people just mistake higher prices for better qualities. It is the same reason why some people buy those $4.99 toothpaste with fancy packaging instead of the $1.99 ones with exactly the same function. The manufacturers know many people are not intelligent enough so why not gouge them for more profit? They get the prettier packaging and the company makes more money.

I often hear people complain how expensive it is to live in the big cities nowadays but when I look at how they spend their money (not shopping around, not waiting for deals, jump at the newest and prettiest thing), it is not surprising they live paycheck to paycheck.
I very much agree with this post.. Something of a rarity I know lol..

Anyway, I can't fathom why anyone would spend 30 percent or more for an item at one grocery store over another - exactly the same item.. It makes no sense to me at all... The only time I don't shop at No Frills or Food Basics is if the item i'm looking for just isn't there, than I force myself to go to Longo's, Loblaws, Sobeys or Metro otherwise no way..

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Old 09-09-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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In the minds of many, density is signified by tall buildings. In that way, I personally, I find Toronto's density even more impressive than NYC.

Hear me out! In the central core, NYC definitely has the upper hand on Toronto, but once you move to the suburbs, Toronto gains it back. American suburbs are generally very adverse to density and tall buildings, which you don't see in Toronto. NYC has nothing comparable to a Mississauga, which now has 18 buildings over 30 floors. It doesn't even have a Brampton, which is as suburban as you can get, but still counts 20 buildings around/over 20 floors.
Oh i'm in love

I'm gay and married but it doesn't matter lol..
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