Why is Canada's population so low compared to its size? (homes, quality of life)
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Cornerguy1
"So there's little to no agriculture in the other 9 provinces? The St.Lawrence isn't a reliable river?"
There is agriculture in the other 9 provinces but it is limited to the some of spring and summer and a bit of fall. BC or new foundland are not exactly the bes places to farm, ya there are farms there but it is not the ideal farming environment. Historically, the st. lawrence was largely un-naviagable Canadian Shield
Basically the shield and the st.lawrence meet making most of it useless for farming but rich in minerals
"Canada had a policy to wipe out indians in any land before it was settled? I'd love to see you support that with some source material"
Read native literature read tom king. The whole reason why americans have the right to arms is because the gov't new it couldn't protect its people from indian raids so allowed them to have guns. In Canada the government murdered all the indians and then allowed people to settle the lands so private gun ownership en masse was unnecessary.
"Not a 1st world country until the 1980's, huh? Guess it depends on your definition of 1st world, but it was considered economically significant enough to be a member of the G7 group of nations since 1976"
Canada was never initially in the g6 until they joined to make the g7. Funny Russia who was also the competiing world power with usa for decades was never in this group of super advanced countries, this tells you alot about its purpose.
@GRmike, the average person from northern canada like nwt or nunavut has never seen a real tree
Tundra and Treeline | Spectacular Northwest Territories
the nwt tree line basically means that everything from 69 latitude and baove has no trees because of bad soil. alaska is different, they are on the water so are warmer and have diff. soil.
Your right we do have trees in say ontario and bc, but our soil is terrible and muddle with rocks thus is useless largely for farming purposes.
In the old days canada had many rich foreigners living here who artifically boost the gdp, the avg, person was still very very poor.
Cornerguy1
"So there's little to no agriculture in the other 9 provinces? The St.Lawrence isn't a reliable river?"
There is agriculture in the other 9 provinces but it is limited to the some of spring and summer and a bit of fall. BC or new foundland are not exactly the bes places to farm, ya there are farms there but it is not the ideal farming environment. Historically, the st. lawrence was largely un-naviagable Canadian Shield
Basically the shield and the st.lawrence meet making most of it useless for farming but rich in minerals
"Canada had a policy to wipe out indians in any land before it was settled? I'd love to see you support that with some source material"
Read native literature read tom king. The whole reason why americans have the right to arms is because the gov't new it couldn't protect its people from indian raids so allowed them to have guns. In Canada the government murdered all the indians and then allowed people to settle the lands so private gun ownership en masse was unnecessary.
"Not a 1st world country until the 1980's, huh? Guess it depends on your definition of 1st world, but it was considered economically significant enough to be a member of the G7 group of nations since 1976"
Canada was never initially in the g6 until they joined to make the g7. Funny Russia who was also the competiing world power with usa for decades was never in this group of super advanced countries, this tells you alot about its purpose.
@GRmike, the average person from northern canada like nwt or nunavut has never seen a real tree
Tundra and Treeline | Spectacular Northwest Territories
the nwt tree line basically means that everything from 69 latitude and baove has no trees because of bad soil. alaska is different, they are on the water so are warmer and have diff. soil.
Your right we do have trees in say ontario and bc, but our soil is terrible and muddle with rocks thus is useless largely for farming purposes.
In the old days canada had many rich foreigners living here who artifically boost the gdp, the avg, person was still very very poor.
"There is agriculture in the other 9 provinces but it is limited to the some of spring and summer and a bit of fall."
LOL Are you implying the agricultural season in Saskatchewan extends beyond spring, summer and a bit of fall? Too funny. All of Canada. most of the USA, and most of Europe have agricultural seasons which are limited to spring, summer and a bit of fall. By your logic only tropical areas are great for agriculture........which, of course, they are not due to wet/dry seasons.
"Historically, the st. lawrence was largely un-naviagable"
So all those French coureur des bois walked into the interior of Ontario and the establishment of Fort Cataraqui at the junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario was just a coincidence?
"In Canada the government murdered all the indians and then allowed people to settle the lands"
So there's no actual official record of organized Canadian government campaigns which set out for the expressed purpose of murdering indigenous populations to clear the way for settlement? How would you explain the British crown policy of providing Loyalist Mohawk tribes from New York state with reservations at Deseronto and Brantford after the American Revolution? I smell a conspiracy of silence.
"Canada was never initially in the g6 until they joined to make the g7. "
Exactly! The G6 group of "super advanced countries" (your words) was initially formed in 1975.........a whole year before Canada was admitted. This would seem to indicate that Canada was considered a "super advanced country" -- a circumstance which likely did not occur overnight.
Hotmess, you're certainly welcome to hold whatever opinions you wish, but if you're going to present bizarre interpretations you really should provide some substantiation.
Sadly though, I fear Robynator has once again hit the proverbial nail right on the head.
Last edited by Cornerguy1; 01-21-2010 at 06:27 PM..
"So all those French coureur des bois walked into the interior of Ontario and the establishment of Fort Cataraqui at the junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario was just a coincidence?"
I gave a link showing how it was not navigable pass montreal for a long time.
"Exactly! The G6 group of "super advanced countries" (your words) was initially formed in 1975.........a whole year before Canada was admitted. This would seem to indicate that Canada was considered a "super advanced country" -- a circumstance which likely did not occur overnight."
Exactly my point Canada was neevr included because they were not advanced but then were added in after, kind of like after 30 years of being the second most advanced country and collapsing russia was added, its political
"So all those French coureur des bois walked into the interior of Ontario and the establishment of Fort Cataraqui at the junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario was just a coincidence?"
I gave a link showing how it was not navigable pass montreal for a long time.
"Exactly! The G6 group of "super advanced countries" (your words) was initially formed in 1975.........a whole year before Canada was admitted. This would seem to indicate that Canada was considered a "super advanced country" -- a circumstance which likely did not occur overnight."
Exactly my point Canada was neevr included because they were not advanced but then were added in after, kind of like after 30 years of being the second most advanced country and collapsing russia was added, its political
Sorry, you have not posted a link which shows the St. Lawrence as being unnavigable above Montreal.
Perhaps you can include it when you post your references to official records on the Canadian government's campaigns of killing indigenous peoples to allow settlement.
Last edited by Cornerguy1; 01-21-2010 at 09:14 PM..
Canada contains over a third of the world’s boreal forest, one fifth of the world’s temperate rainforest, and a tenth of the total global forest cover. Canada has the second major repository of northern forests, after Russia. Canada’s boreal forest is one of the three largest ‘frontier forests’ remaining on the planet. The other two are in Russia and Brazil. Canada’s relatively undisturbed forest areas are sufficiently large to maintain all of their native biodiversity.
Forests comprise45% and freshwaters comprise 9% of Canada’s area. The timber productive forestland totals almost 2.5 million square kilometers, or about one quarter of Canada’s land area.
in some provinces like Nova Scotia 77 % of the area is considered forested and that doesn't include tree cover in urban areas. altogether it could be as high as 85 %.
New Brunswick it's 90 % http://www.new-brunswick.net/new-bru...gentravel.html
the area of dense forests in Quebec is the size of Norway and Sweden combined.
33 MILLION HECTARES OF FOREST LAND IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORES http://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/_live/pages..._a_forest.aspx
tree cover in Australia is 5 %
tree cover in Canada is 45 %
Canada's forests occupy 1.5 times the land area of the entire European Community
"North America's forests are abundant and growing. Between them, Canada and the United States contain 15 percent (10 percent in Canada and 5 percent in the U.S.) of the Earth's forest cover" that means there are more trees in Canada than the USA. http://www.hpva.org/products/facts.asp
@corner guy
"LOL Are you implying the agricultural season in Saskatchewan extends beyond spring, summer and a bit of fall?"
No,In a good year, if there is no drought, no early fall / near 0 temp. or no late spring. Too much rain can't grow anything for weeks. You obviously cannot grow food in winter or below 0 temperature, growing at near 0 temperature is real risky, there is a reason why canadians have thanksgiving a year early.
"Too funny. All of Canada. most of the USA, and most of Europe have agricultural seasons which are limited to spring, summer and a bit of fall."
not true, usa has a drastically different agricultural season, your forgetting entire regions like the south, south east, south west have no or little snow and snow is not much in the central american agricultural heartland.
"By your logic only tropical areas are great for agriculture........which, of course, they are not due to wet/dry seasons."
Nope, places like mexico or dr where all are fruits come from in the winter have terrible seasons to grow by your logic.
Warmer areas are better for agriculture provided you can get water on the plants. In parts of mexico the aztecs came up with ways to make 6 harvest in 1 "season" as opposed to the usual 3 in warm areas. Parts of canada have 1 growing season.
@grmike, no one ever said canada never had forest, people cannot eat logs to survive. You are ignoring the fact that much of canada has no trees. there are communities where eevrything is flown in and it is snow cover and perma frost year round
@grmike, no one ever said canada never had forest, people cannot eat logs to survive. You are ignoring the fact that much of canada has no trees. there are communities where eevrything is flown in and it is snow cover and perma frost year round
what part of Canada has no trees ? Canada has many more trees than the US even on a per capita basis. you said NWT has no trees. the NWT has 33 MILLION HECTARES OF FORESTED AREA.
when Canada warms, it doesn't matter what part of the country, it blossoms with vegetation. the soil is just as rich if not richer than that found in most other countries. most of the country is untouched by anthropogenic activities. deserts and many parts of other countries that don't have high population densities suffer from lack of rich soil, freshwater, forests that support lots of biodiversity. a warming period for Canada is all that's needed to transform the land into a place that can easily support hundreds of millions of people. Canada is the only country that ranks top 5 in freshwater that has less than 140 million people.
it's a fact that at least 45 % of Canada is forested area far from anything urban. include total tree cover and it could be a lot higher. it's rare to be in a part of the country that has no trees.
even tundra was replaced by forests of birch then spruce, pine, and maple and hemlock 10 thousand years ago when ice melted and temperatures warmed.
ever heard of the barter system ? the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world will more than make up for having to have food flown in the winter time in the north. it's called the seasons. there are many countries that would rather have a real winter.
NWT has 33 million hectares of forest does it, 33 million hectares is 300,000 km which is only about 1/5th of the entire land and it is all in one spot. NWT was divided into 2 recently so much of what I was thinking was still nwt in now nunavut and it is all ice and tundra.
I know farmers from souther ontario who only have livestock because their land is all quarry land it is covered in rock and worthless to grow vegetation. Most of the canadian soil that has mounds of trees cannot grow real vegetation fit for human consumption too much rocks, soil too dry. You have to remember much of those trees in canada have never been touched, ever, never chopped down, so they are small in size considering that they are hundreds or even thousands of years old.
Canada does have lots of water, but most of the land which can support trees cannot be used for agriculture.
You probably never been to northern canada, no trees ever in nunavut, people there have never seen a real tree.
the trees in brazil grow faster than trees in canada, they chop down their rain forest for farming, we leave our forest because it cannot be farmed
NWT has 33 million hectares of forest does it, 33 million hectares is 300,000 km which is only about 1/5th of the entire land and it is all in one spot. NWT was divided into 2 recently so much of what I was thinking was still nwt in now nunavut and it is all ice and tundra.
I know farmers from souther ontario who only have livestock because their land is all quarry land it is covered in rock and worthless to grow vegetation. Most of the canadian soil that has mounds of trees cannot grow real vegetation fit for human consumption too much rocks, soil too dry. You have to remember much of those trees in canada have never been touched, ever, never chopped down, so they are small in size considering that they are hundreds or even thousands of years old.
Canada does have lots of water, but most of the land which can support trees cannot be used for agriculture.
You probably never been to northern canada, no trees ever in nunavut, people there have never seen a real tree.
the trees in brazil grow faster than trees in canada, they chop down their rain forest for farming, we leave our forest because it cannot be farmed
it reaches 15-20 degrees celcius during the summer even in the north. during that time the same rich soil that supports tree growth can be used to grow just about anything.
per capita Canada has more trees than most other countries. you can find areas of every country where there are no trees. some have suffered from erosion, desertification. that's not the case in Canada give any area of the north warm weather and lots of vegetation will grow.
Canada has been one of the 10 wealthiest countries in the world since the early 1900's, that's most of the time its been a country.
NWT was divided into 2 recently so much of what I was thinking was still nwt in now nunavut and it is all ice and tundra.
the trees in brazil grow faster than trees in canada, they chop down their rain forest for farming, we leave our forest because it cannot be farmed
The reason that Nunavut is covered with ice and tundra has nothing to do with the quality of the soil, but is because of the cold temperatures.
I guarantee you that if the weather in Brazil were to suddenly change to match the weather in the far north of Canada, that most of the Brazilian trees would die from the cold, and permafrost would form under what was once a jungle.
In fact, in much much warmer times, 50 million years ago, Antarctica was covered in dense forests... and now Antarctica is covered only by ice. This change has nothing to do with soil quality, just temperature.
So, given a few more decades of global warming, Canada's Northern Coast should be prime beach resort property =), surrounded by farms
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Temperature, not soil quality
