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Old 02-06-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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I just read that and it makes me feel somewhat better. I'm glad that he acknowledged that his actions were over-the-top wrong. It takes a lot to admit that.

The reason I don't feel 100% better is because I saw no evidence of "I did wrong and I'm taking steps (anger-management, yoga, meditation, whatever) to learn how to deal with things more constructively next time I get so worked up". Maybe I missed that part in the article or maybe the writer left that part out.

For me, apologies are good. Making amends is better. Working to prevent the same mistake from occurring again is better still (even if you're not 100% successful, at least make the attempt).

Now, if I don't rent/see his movies, it'll be because I'm simply not interested, not because of his behavior (I'm looking at you, Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson).
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:19 PM
 
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I'm glad that he acknowledged that his actions were over-the-top wrong. It takes a lot to admit that.
He probably hired a PR team to advise him on what to do...
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:32 PM
 
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He probably hired a PR team to advise him on what to do...
I am sure he already has PR people.
No doubt some spinning is going on.
The public will decide whether or not they still want to see Bale's acting.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:27 PM
 
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I just read that and it makes me feel somewhat better. I'm glad that he acknowledged that his actions were over-the-top wrong. It takes a lot to admit that.

The reason I don't feel 100% better is because I saw no evidence of "I did wrong and I'm taking steps (anger-management, yoga, meditation, whatever) to learn how to deal with things more constructively next time I get so worked up". Maybe I missed that part in the article or maybe the writer left that part out.

For me, apologies are good. Making amends is better. Working to prevent the same mistake from occurring again is better still (even if you're not 100% successful, at least make the attempt).

Now, if I don't rent/see his movies, it'll be because I'm simply not interested, not because of his behavior (I'm looking at you, Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson).

I second everything you said! That's exactly how I feel.


Woof Woof Woof, we all have PR people, or for us regular citizens just friends or family members giving us advice on how to handle situations. It takes a wise person to LISTEN to advice and it takes a secure person to be willing to acknowledge a problem and apologize.


But seriously, is it REALLY newsworthy when an 'artist' has a temper tantrum? Who knew that entertainers could be temperamental & moody? Shocking!!!!
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:53 AM
 
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But seriously, is it REALLY newsworthy when an 'artist' has a temper tantrum? Who knew that entertainers could be temperamental & moody? Shocking!!!!
Newsworthy and of real substance?
No.
Escapist Hollywood gossip fodder? Bingo.

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The reason I don't feel 100% better is because I saw no evidence of "I did wrong and I'm taking steps (anger-management, yoga, meditation, whatever) to learn how to deal with things more constructively next time I get so worked up". Maybe I missed that part in the article or maybe the writer left that part out.

For me, apologies are good. Making amends is better. Working to prevent the same mistake from occurring again is better still (even if you're not 100% successful, at least make the attempt).

Now, if I don't rent/see his movies, it'll be because I'm simply not interested, not because of his behavior (I'm looking at you, Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson).
I agree that making amends and actually learning and growing from your experience are important.
This is up to the individual.
Telling the public you are "going into treatment" sounds swell, but sometimes is just a publicity line or a way to look good in the courtroom.
Didn't Mel go into anger management classes or some such thing?
I don't doubt for a minute that he still dislikes Jews.
I will still see his work if it interests me.
I am usually able to separate the behavior from the artist.
However, I doubt that I'll be buying a Gary Glitter album any time soon.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:34 AM
 
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I just listened to a clip

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/audio/020609_bale-mp4.mp4

of him apologizing over the air on a radio show...and I have to say I'm impressed. Kudos to him for getting over himself.
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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I just listened to a clip

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/audio/020609_bale-mp4.mp4

of him apologizing over the air on a radio show...and I have to say I'm impressed. Kudos to him for getting over himself.
He's not over himself. He's just under advisement from his PR firm who has stepped in to help him with damage control. The guy's an actor, remember?
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:53 PM
 
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Newsworthy and of real substance?
No.
Escapist Hollywood gossip fodder? Bingo.
Exactly! But I'm pretty sick of the media focusing on all the NEGATIVE antics of celebrities.

Are they somehow encouraging celebrities to misbehave in order to get publicity?

Why do they virtually ignore all the POSITIVE stories dealing with the responsible & sane celebrities?


IMO, the media is almost as reprehensible as the worst of the celebrities because they're lowering the bar for what our society comes to expect.
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Old 02-07-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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He's not over himself. He's just under advisement from his PR firm who has stepped in to help him with damage control. The guy's an actor, remember?
Well of course he is. But I think he did a great job of knocking himself down a few notches. And he did...regardless of whether he was advised to, or not.
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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IMO, the media is almost as reprehensible as the worst of the celebrities because they're lowering the bar for what our society comes to expect.
I agree, but the problem is, they wouldn't sell it if we didn't buy it.

Chessiemom, I agree that he made a graceful apology, and IMHO the gesture is not completely hollow.
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