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Old 08-06-2010, 11:27 AM
 
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I've never heard of 24/7 Wall St. before, and there's a good reason for that, because this article is terrible, littered with inaccuracies and misunderstandings.

"T-Mobile, the U.S. wireless provider, is owned by telecom giant Deutsche Telekom (DTEGY.PK - News). It is the No.4 cellular company in an American market that only supports two really successful firms -- AT&T Wireless and Verizon Wireless. Even the third-largest company in the market -- Sprint-Nextel (NYSE: S - News) -- has 50 million customers. T-Mobile had 34 million customers at the end of last year. T-Mobile only had a profit of $306 million in 2009. That was down from $483 million in 2008."

"A merger with Sprint-Nextel has been mentioned several times."

Sprint is actually losing money ($760 million in the 2nd quarter), so a $306 million profit for T-Mobile looks great by comparison. If anything, Sprint is the endangered company. They are still recovering from a disastrous merger with Nextel. Sprint certainly isn't going to attempt to take on another struggling company right now.

What would be more likely is Deutsche Telekom absorbing Sprint.

"Another alternative would be a merger with Virgin Mobile."

Virgin Mobile in the US is already wholly owned by Sprint. They license the name from Branson.

"Maybe Deutsche Telekom will just change the firm's name."

Why? T-Mobile doesn't have an image or branding problem. They have a technology problem.

Interestingly, this is the exact opposite of Sprint. Sprint, right now, has the best 4G coverage in the country, but the Sprint brand has been tarnished after years of mis-steps.

But the T-Mobile part of this article looks downright scholarly when compared to the Kia part:

"Kia Motors Corp. is one of the two car brands of Hyundai of South Korea. It has always been a marginal brand."

Kia has increased market share for many years now. They are in expansion mode, opening plants in the US. Kia is one of the top ten best-selling car brands in the US- they are not in any way "marginal".

"Its stable mate, Hyundai USA, has a reputation for high quality cars like the Sonata and Genesis. Kia sells "low rent" cars and SUV nameplates like the Sorento and Rio."

Is this article from 10 years ago? Have they not heard of the Forte and Soul?

"As GM and Ford (NYSE: F - News) have already discovered, it is expensive to maintain multiple brands and storied car names, including Pontiac, Saturn and Mercury, are disappearing."

That's because none of those brands actually stood for something. There was no reason to get a Mercury instead of a Ford, because they were the exact same car. Hyundai is positioning its Hyundai and Kia brands very differently- Hyundai is being positioned as luxury-and-quality-on-a-budget. Kia is being positioned as fun and youth-friendly. You don't see Ford getting rid of Lincoln, GM getting rid of Cadillac, Toyota getting rid of Scion. That's because all of these brands have a successful niche. Pontiac and Saturn didn't.

"Most Kia cars sell for $14,000 to $25,000. Hyundai has several cars in the same price range. Hyundai's Sonata has quickly become one of the best-selling cars in America, and its Genesis flagship model competes with mid-sized BMWs and Mercedes. The parent company will take a page from several other global car companies and dump its weakest brand."

Hyundai's "weakest" brand is better than some companies "strongest" brand. It'll stick around.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Hookerville, formerly in Tweakerville
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I just updated my T-Mobile phone, and didn't hear anything about it.
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Old 08-09-2010, 06:34 AM
 
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I find it hard to believe. T-Mobile has improved its coverage and seems to be a good brand. I have heard it will even get the iPhone next year.
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Old 08-09-2010, 02:40 PM
 
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But look at what Sprint is doing tho....

- Building out a 4G network...

- Must keep that Sinking Ship Nextel Alive for some reason

- Operate 3 simulatinous networks
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:04 AM
 
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I find it highly unlikely that T-Mobile will go anywhere. It launched the Android craze and has a decent line-up. Right now its facing some stiff competition as far as phones. But this is something all carriers go through. At one time Verizons phone line up sucked and Sprint had the best camera phones (early 2000s). But its a phase all carriers go through. Especially if they do get the Iphone, the G2 coming soon, and the my Touch slide and HD2, and the Samsung GalaxyS phone ain't that bad either.
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:57 AM
 
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Well, its almost September. Nine months in, how much of this article has proved true?
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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Well, its almost September. Nine months in, how much of this article has proved true?
I think I see your point. I can't find one part of this article that has proven true yet.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Well, its almost September. Nine months in, how much of this article has proved true?
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I think I see your point. I can't find one part of this article that has proven true yet.
Uh, fellers... Give it a chance... It's 2010 still...

"One of 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011"
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:26 AM
 
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For the price, T-Mobile offers great value. They do still have good roaming coverage in many parts of the USA and it works well. Their HSPA+ will be the fastest mobile data, at least for a short time until LTE tops it. They offer feature phones that can tether 3-3.5G to a computer for $10/month. Their UMA service is unmatched in the USA, and it is superior to mircocells/femcells in many ways (overseas to USA use, many free wi-fi locations, cheap b/g hardware). Their only real problem is poor in-building coverage and spotty rural coverage.

DT is making good money with T-Mobile and it is highly unlikely the US govt. will allow any more consolidation in this industry. If they come out with a great new android phone, then subscriber numbers should start to look good. If the new Nokia N8 is a great new phone, then T-Mobile will also benefit. Having the highest rated/most popular phone seems to be very important in today's market, at least for bragging rights and to promote peer pressure for sales.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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From the article, it looks like T-Mobile will either merge with Sprint-Nextel or another competitor. It doesn't look like they expect them to go completely belly-up.
I don't see that as happening. The technologies are different and I doubt that the Justice Dept and the FCC will sign off on anymore mega mergers. If T is put up for sale, more likely they will be bought by a non cell company that can make synergy with them. I would guess:

1. Google
2. Comcast or a combo of cable companies.
3. Quest
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