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Old 01-04-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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What matters is personal choice.


If someone blows all their money on something that is socially acceptable, is that OK? What if they do that and then don't pay their baby mama money?

The problem isn't what people do with their money. It's what they don't do with it.

Ironic. That is exactly what you want the government to do: close sweepstakes parlors because some people can't manage their own business.
Your first sentence is too vague to debate. Look at public nudity. Why did San Fransisco feel the urge to ban those older than five from being nude in public? (except for parades and certain events). I'm not looking for an answer more than pointing out that even the most liberal local governments feel the urge to regulate "personal choice".

Your last paragraph is presumptuous. I have not stated an opinion on whether they should be legal or illegal or allowed to be open or not. Correct me if I'm wrong in case I've had some subconscious posting or memory lapse.

What I've said is that I think there's an element of sleaze in the business and I'm not going to do business with someone that says sweepstakes parlors are know different from McDonald's or Publisher's Clearing House.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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I disagree. The "nanny state" is the one that protects people from themselves and/or bans things based on a group's moral objection to them. If you want to argue that "sin' taxes are crap, that is fine. But a nanny state would just ban the sin itself.
Or perhaps allow the sin and then use tax dollars to "treat" the side effects. Good points though.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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As stated in this thread already, they will find a way to blow their money. This will probably cause scrath-off sales to go up or the opening of numerous underground sweepstakes parlors. If people want to do something, they will find a way to do it. And there will be people standing there waiting to make a buck off of it.
Scratch off tickets don't remind me of Pavlov's dog like sweepstakes do and to some form slot machines. Not saying there isn't psychology involved but scratch off tickets don't "award" you the same way to get you to keep playing. Or at least not as much.

OTOH I have to say I got a slight buzz the one time I bought lottery tickets.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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The state is being hypocritical.

They seek to close private gambling establishments all while running their own gambling industry in the form of the NC "Educational" Lottery. The state also fought the Cherokees tooth and nail for years to prevent them from opening their casino on their reservation but they ended up losing that one.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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Your first sentence is too vague to debate. Look at public nudity. Why did San Fransisco feel the urge to ban those older than five from being nude in public? (except for parades and certain events). I'm not looking for an answer more than pointing out that even the most liberal local governments feel the urge to regulate "personal choice".

Your last paragraph is presumptuous. I have not stated an opinion on whether they should be legal or illegal or allowed to be open or not. Correct me if I'm wrong in case I've had some subconscious posting or memory lapse.

What I've said is that I think there's an element of sleaze in the business and I'm not going to do business with someone that says sweepstakes parlors are know different from McDonald's or Publisher's Clearing House.
Public nudity can affect others, immediately and without their consent. Sweepstakes (gambling, let's be honest) parlors do not. People should be allowed to do pretty much anything they want in private. Kids aren't allowed in these places, and adults aren't being forced in against their will.

Yes, I see that you didn't openly choose a side. In an ironic turn of events, I had actually started a post stating that my cold meds are clouding everything for me, particularly my interpretation of posts, but forgot to send it.

Whether you do business with them is your choice, and you are certainly welcome to it. Removing that choice for others is what I have an issue with.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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The state is being hypocritical.

They seek to close private gambling establishments all while running their own gambling industry in the form of the NC "Educational" Lottery. The state also fought the Cherokees tooth and nail for years to prevent them from opening their casino on their reservation but they ended up losing that one.
Isn't playing...err...investing...in the stock market gambling?
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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Public nudity can affect others, immediately and without their consent. Sweepstakes (gambling, let's be honest) parlors do not. People should be allowed to do pretty much anything they want in private. Kids aren't allowed in these places, and adults aren't being forced in against their will.

Yes, I see that you didn't openly choose a side. In an ironic turn of events, I had actually started a post stating that my cold meds are clouding everything for me, particularly my interpretation of posts, but forgot to send it.

Whether you do business with them is your choice, and you are certainly welcome to it. Removing that choice for others is what I have an issue with.
First paragraph: That could be argued to death but my point is there is a line somewhere and often that line is drawn because of a minority of people taking things to the extreme. Would it be nice not to have a line? Perhaps. But I don't want to see anyone's junk. So for now I'm saying we can't go without a line.l

2nd: LOL and double LOL

3rd: Yeah. I don't know. Maybe if it were operated by nuns I'd feel better.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:24 PM
 
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Isn't playing...err...investing...in the stock market gambling?
Indeed it is these days, but the NC government doesn't regulate the stock market. (in fact, its more like Russian Roulette now)
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:38 PM
 
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Isn't playing...err...investing...in the stock market gambling?

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Old 01-05-2013, 03:31 AM
 
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The state is being hypocritical.

They seek to close private gambling establishments all while running their own gambling industry in the form of the NC "Educational" Lottery. The state also fought the Cherokees tooth and nail for years to prevent them from opening their casino on their reservation but they ended up losing that one.
Nobody's knocking over the state lottery or Harrah's in Cherokee. Big difference. At any rate sweepstakes shops set up shop to prey on the same people payday advance places go for; and nobody got too upset when the state banned them.


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Isn't playing...err...investing...in the stock market gambling?
Only for idiots who still do OTC trades. The real money's in private equity and algo trading through ETCs.
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