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Keep in mind, Jerry Jones asked for , and received, $325 million from taxpayers in Texas. Also, the stadium in Dallas has NO public transportation available (bus or rail). Guess who owns all the parking lots around the stadium and charges $75 a pop.....Jerry Jones........I agree, the funding for stadiums has gotten out of hand......Miami financed a new baseball stadium for a team that has never drawn well....Atlanta and Minneapolis are getting ready to fund much more than we are for new stadiums.....all these owners keep thinking if we make the stadium better, people will come, when that's not the problem.....$500 for 4 seats, plus $10 for a beer and $5 for a chicken-turkey-pork-beef hot dog is just too much.....the majority of the money these teams make are from t.v. and licensing deals. Look at the stands on the tv, tons of seats are empty. Games in Jacksonville, Tampa, Miami, Oakland, San Deigo, etc.... are rarely televised in their home markets. Sure, these are not great teams, but if it were an affoardable event, people would go. The owners would lose a little bit of revenue from ticket sales and concessions, but at least the house would be packed on Sundays with a rabid fan base.
Tampa, Jacksonville, Miami, Oakland, SanDiego... all these teams have 2 things in common.. well, 3 things.
1)These teams are bad
2)these cities are all close to the ocean
3) these cities tend to have unpredictable weather and most have uncomfortable, unpredictable temps. Oakland is milder but I think they have a loyal fanbase but they need to win games.
IMO all these teams need domes... AZ couldnt fill their outdoor stadium but once they got a dome attendance shot up and now they have a great home field advantage.
Its hard for teams to have a rabid fanbase when you have beautiful weather and the team stinks.
Keep in mind, Jerry Jones asked for , and received, $325 million from taxpayers in Texas. Also, the stadium in Dallas has NO public transportation available (bus or rail). Guess who owns all the parking lots around the stadium and charges $75 a pop.....Jerry Jones........I agree, the funding for stadiums has gotten out of hand......Miami financed a new baseball stadium for a team that has never drawn well....Atlanta and Minneapolis are getting ready to fund much more than we are for new stadiums.....all these owners keep thinking if we make the stadium better, people will come, when that's not the problem.....$500 for 4 seats, plus $10 for a beer and $5 for a chicken-turkey-pork-beef hot dog is just too much.....the majority of the money these teams make are from t.v. and licensing deals. Look at the stands on the tv, tons of seats are empty. Games in Jacksonville, Tampa, Miami, Oakland, San Deigo, etc.... are rarely televised in their home markets. Sure, these are not great teams, but if it were an affoardable event, people would go. The owners would lose a little bit of revenue from ticket sales and concessions, but at least the house would be packed on Sundays with a rabid fan base.
You are wrong - it's 8 bucks for a hot dog.
Other than that, you are correct. TV money and a salary cap help keep all NFL teams in the money and provide a shot a parity between large and small market teams. Billion dollar stadiums and help large market teams make money. Winning helps small market teams (Steelers and Packers for example) make money.
Smaller cities, where the team's performance is middling at the time, like the Panthers, eventually end up asking for hand outs from places that can barely afford it and the cities give in to prevent risking the lost of their team. Most places usually give in, and even the ones that lost teams, like the Houston (Oilers), St Louis (Cardinals), Cleveland (old Browns) and Baltimore (Colts) wound up getting new ones due to new stadiums, the league not wanting to leave that city vacant or both. It seems like a publicly funded stadium is in the mix to get a team back. LA is special as there seems to be an apathy towards football as the lost 2 teams and Oakland got there team back, from LA.
While I agree ticket prices could be better I still think cities benefit from having an NFL team. I read a study where they provided stats that said cities our size(we were cited in the study) benefit more than larger cities like NYC or Dallas.
Cities like St. Louis and Houston voted no... lost teams and then aggressively sought out to get the NFL backbecause they witnessed what it was like without a team and realized how much money a team generates for a city.
Seattle lost their basketball team and now they are about to snatch up the Sacremento Kings. Trust me, Charlotte doesnt want to lose the Panthers... that would be a huge mistake.
If the Atlanta Falcons get this new retractable roof stadium it will put a lot of pressure on Charlotte and the state to keep up with competition. It really is when will Bank of America Stadium upgrade.
Not sure if anyone heard this interview but the guy who owns the Speedway in Concord (Gruden?) said he was interested in buying the Panthers if the price was right and he wouldn't ask for tax dollars or move the team.
Not sure if I believe him though because he complained about $80 million that was promised by a politician or city manager (he said he couldn't remember his name) if he built the track.
The way he was talking it sounded like he and Richardson never speak and there is probably a little competition between the 2.
Apologies if the name isn't right... it was a radio interview.
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