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Is that visible from shore? I mean - maybe as a little speck?
I would reconsider oil rigs off our coast if they didnt provide hazard to the dolphin , shark, and whale population off our coast and the oil was solely used for the usa.
Thirty to fifty miles off shore is not that far instead of looking at the roundness of the ocean "end" you will be looking at these dot down the shoreline and again the oil will not be used just for us.
I am waiting on to drive one of these http://media.canada.com/6c8714d8-471...8f/jetsons.jpg
I try to make a run to the border when I get a chance and if I will be heading into south Charlotte due to it cheaper gas tax. I paid 3.81 off Carowinds Blvd and I try to take a notion to do other buying while I am there since they have lower sales tax.
It can be 15 to 20 cents cheaper than the shell monopoly (except for cashions and BP) has on Huntersville
I would reconsider oil rigs off our coast if they didnt provide hazard to the dolphin , shark, and whale population off our coast and the oil was solely used for the usa.
Thirty to fifty miles off shore is not that far instead of looking at the roundness of the ocean "end" you will be looking at these dot down the shoreline and again the oil will not be used just for us.
I am waiting on to drive one of these http://media.canada.com/6c8714d8-471...8f/jetsons.jpg
It just seems awful to me - that other countries come that close to our shoreline and drill for a commodity that we could use . . . and they don't give a flit about the sea creatures. Meanwhile, we have a social conscience and respect for dolphins and whales, so we don't drill. Others are, so the damage is being done without us. It just seems really really screwy, you know what I mean???? We are trying to protect the environment but others aren't . . . so what is that all about . . .
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Ethanol is a false economy, driving up the cost of basic food items, producing a low yield fuel (20 - 25% less efficient) and requiring huge amounts of fresh water to produce, approximately 1700 gallons of fresh water is required to make one gallon of Ethanol.
The 'unintended consequences' is to raise the prices of many products, food and non-food. It will also result in food shortages in other parts of the world and hardships for the poor here as farmers are cashing in, and not planting food crops, many of which are exported in huge quantities.
It is an ill conceived government initiated disaster with little benefit
At the risk of offending, I am going to suggest that your sources of information on ethanol production not be limited to what you hear on NPR. Attached, you will find a link to information on the Brazilian ethanol program, which is the type of system I was advocating- not the corn based system we have now. As for your 1700 gallons of water to yield 1 gallon of ethanol argument- show me credible proof of that, and I'll eat my hat! Ethanol fuel in Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
At the risk of offending, I am going to suggest that your sources of information on ethanol production not be limited to what you hear on NPR. Attached, you will find a link to information on the Brazilian ethanol program, which is the type of system I was advocating- not the corn based system we have now. As for your 1700 gallons of water to yield 1 gallon of ethanol argument- show me credible proof of that, and I'll eat my hat! Ethanol fuel in Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No, you are not offending. I don't understand why we are not doing the same type of fuel as Brazil. I don't get it. Why did we choose corn? Just strange - after all - Brazil has been researching and perfecting for several decades. Why didn't we just follow their production model????
At the risk of offending, I am going to suggest that your sources of information on ethanol production not be limited to what you hear on NPR. Attached, you will find a link to information on the Brazilian ethanol program, which is the type of system I was advocating- not the corn based system we have now. As for your 1700 gallons of water to yield 1 gallon of ethanol argument- show me credible proof of that, and I'll eat my hat! Ethanol fuel in Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also at the risk of offending, I'm going to suggest your sources not be limited to Wikipedia. It works fine for some things, I'll agree, but perhaps a post like this topic has more weight when a Wiki isn't the only information cited. I'd be interested in learning more about Brazil's program but, after all, anybody can edit a Wiki.
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