What do you think will happen to real estate prices in cook county suburbs? (Chicago: houses, public schools)

[destination-unknown]

Originally Posted by petlover8

Really? Wake up. It's ranked 36th in the world, all the while spending the most. And it's getting worse every day. What would you call it, a success?

I already answered this question in the previous post. Why are the public early education schools considered a disaster but yet the U.S. is home to many of the most renowned public universities in the world? Why do you think that is?

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by destination-unknown

I already answered this question in the previous post. Why are the public early education schools considered a disaster but yet the U.S. is home to many of the most renowned public universities in the world? Why do you think that is?

He (petlover) is just interested in arguing with someone.

[petlover8]

Originally Posted by destination-unknown

Why are the public early education schools considered a disaster but yet the U.S. is home to many of the most renowned public universities in the world? Why do you think that is?

Look pal, you can bull$h!t yourself 11 ways to Sunday. You're doing a terrific job. It doesn't matter to me. If your continual, never ending cherry picking makes you feel better about a public education system that ranks 36th in the world, I'm happy for you. After all, like you, most socialists believe in socialism regardless of how many bad examples you give them. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll find people who think Obama is a good President, and Hillary is honest and trustworthy.

[destination-unknown]

Originally Posted by petlover8

Look pal, you can bull$h!t yourself 11 ways to Sunday. It doesn't matter to me. If your continual, never ending cherry picking makes you feel better about a public education system that ranks 36th in the world, I'm happy for you. After all, like you, most socialists believe in socialism regardless of how many bad examples you give them. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll find people who think Obama is a good President, and Hillary is honest and trustworthy.

Why make this political? Besides, the rankings you keep citing have Japan as #2 in the world. Aren't they considered a socialist country?

[petlover8]

Originally Posted by destination-unknown

Why make this political?

Because it IS political. Look at the cities like Chicago and Detroit who are all having these problems on a grand scale. ALL of them have been run by socialist Democrats for decades. Detroit has not had a Republican in power since 1961. Chicago since the mid 50's. When did California take it's sudden turn for the worse both economically and socially? As soon as socialist Democrats took over. They all love unions, and hate competition. They've never seen a problem they couldn't find a government program to solve. When they implement them it only makes matters worse. Their solution to every problem is to throw money at it.

They believe the government should run everything, when all they've proven is they can run nothing. Anywhere you want to look. From schools to health care, from Social Security to Medicare. They've train wrecked it all. If you cannot recognize the problem, you certainly will never find a solution to it. If the last 7 years under Obama, (the biggest socialist Democrat of all), haven't convinced you, it's quite apparent no amount of bad examples will persuade you.

[destination-unknown]

Originally Posted by petlover8

Because it IS political. Look at the cities like Chicago and Detroit who are all having these problems on a grand scale. ALL of them have been run by socialist Democrats for decades. Detroit has not had a Republican in power since 1961. Chicago since the mid 50's. When did California take it's sudden turn for the worse both economically and socially? As soon as socialist Democrats took over. They all love unions, and hate competition. They've never seen a problem they couldn't find a government program to solve. When they implement them it only makes matters worse. Their solution to every problem is to throw money at it.

They believe the government should run everything, when all they've proven is they can run nothing. Anywhere you want to look. From schools to health care, from Social Security to Medicare. They've train wrecked it all. If you cannot recognize the problem, you certainly will never find a solution to it. If the last 7 years under Obama, (the biggest socialist Democrat of all), haven't convinced you, it's quite apparent no amount of bad examples will persuade you.

Then why do most of these countries have the top performing public educational systems in the world?

Top 10 Most Socialist Countries in the World - Peerform BlogPeerform | Peer to Peer Lending Blog

Also ironic where states like Illinois, Mississippi, West Virginia, and Wisconsin fall on this list:

The 10 Most 'Socialist' States in America - Pg.19 - TheStreet

Seems you have a warped perception of what constitutes a "socialist."

[petlover8]

Originally Posted by destination-unknown

Then why do most of these countries have the top performing public educational systems in the world?

Top 10 Most Socialist Countries in the World - Peerform BlogPeerform | Peer to Peer Lending Blog

Also ironic where states like Illinois, Mississippi, West Virginia, and Wisconsin fall on this list:

The 10 Most 'Socialist' States in America - Pg.19 - TheStreet

Seems you have a warped perception of what constitutes a "socialist."

You only want to see one side of the coin. Look at what these countries are being taxed for education and health care. You'll come back here running. All of the socialists rave about Denmark. Go pay their taxes, then tell me all about how fantastic it is. Most all of Continental Europe is in unsustainable debt. Many countries there like Spain, Italy, and Greece are in danger of financial collapse. As are we because of this run away train of socialism.

This whole thread is about Chicago's impending financial doom. How do you think it got that way? From too little spending? Get real. If you think Chicago is so damn wonderful, just stick around. Your property taxes are already out of control, and only going higher. Your entire public school system is run amok with waste, and unsustainable teacher salaries, benefits and pensions. And through it all the kids keep coming out dumber.

You have the evidence right in front of your face. The fact you don't want to look at it, or accept it doesn't make it any less factual. Our nation is facing the most expensive, out of control government it has ever faced. And part of the problem are people like you who don't want to believe there even is a problem.

[nana053]

Originally Posted by petlover8

Sure, as soon as a negative article is posted about Chicago public schools, that you were supporting, you right away start crying how you really meant Illinois public schools. Well, here is a big clue you might want to think about. Chicago is in ILLIONIS.

The fact Stevenson High School in Lincolnshire is rated one of the best in the country, has zero bearing on anything, if your kid can't, and doesn't attend it. Good Lord, it's a nationwide, communist public school system. If you haven't figured out by now the entire concept of them is flawed and fail miserably, you're beyond help altogether. Our entire nationwide public school system isn't rated 36th in the world because it's run so wonderfully, and graduates such successful students. It's a total disaster. This in spite of the fact we spend more on them than any other nation on the face of the planet. It's amazing how common sense eludes you. But I get it..... Yours is just simply great.

LOL. You have no clue what you are talking about. The public schools are not actually a national system. The common core is the first attempt at a national curriculum. Schools in various states and localities do not all teach the same thing at the same time nor do they teach to the same quality.

As for the Chicago Public Schools, just as in any system, some are better than others.

Search Illinois High Schools | US News

In Chicago, Northside College Preparatory School is ranked #1 in Illinois, and #15 nationally by US News and World Report. Walter Payton College Preparatory HS is ranked #2 in Illinois and #66 nationally. Jones College Prep is ranked #3 in Illinois and #99 nationally. Whitney Young Magnet HS is ranked #4 in Illinois and #115 nationally. These are Chicago Public Schools.

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There are others both in Chicago and in the suburbs that are nationally ranked better than the best school in Phoenix which is the Horizon Learning Center and it is ranked #13 in Arizona, but only #1087 nationally. Thunderbird HS is ranked #19 in the state and #1566 nationally.

To be fair, there are highly ranked schools in Arizona, just not in Phoenix.

[destination-unknown]

Originally Posted by petlover8

You only want to see one side of the coin. Look at what these countries are being taxed for education and health care. You'll come back here running. All of the socialists rave about Denmark. Go pay their taxes, then tell me all about how fantastic it is. Most all of Continental Europe is in unsustainable debt. Many countries there like Spain, Italy, and Greece are in danger of financial collapse. As are we because of this run away train of socialism.

This whole thread is about Chicago's impending financial doom. How do you think it got that way? From too little spending? Get real. If you think Chicago is so damn wonderful, just stick around. Your property taxes are already out of control, and only going higher. Your entire public school system is run amok with waste, and unsustainable teacher salaries, benefits and pensions. And through it all the kids keep coming out dumber.

You have the evidence right in front of your face. The fact you don't want to look at it, or accept it doesn't make it any less factual. Our nation is facing the most expensive, out of control government it has ever faced. And part of the problem are people like you who don't want to believe there even is a problem.

As a matter of fact, I do think Chicago is wonderful. I think it is one of the greatest cities in the world so I think I will stick around for awhile. Thanks for the words of encouragement!

[petlover8]

Originally Posted by nana053

There are others both in Chicago and in the suburbs that are nationally ranked better than the best school in Phoenix which is the Horizon Learning Center and it is ranked #13 in Arizona, but only #1087 nationally. Thunderbird HS is ranked #19 in the state and #1566 nationally.

To be fair, there are highly ranked schools in Arizona, just not in Phoenix.

Why would I care? I'm 62 years old. Fully retired with no children. I could care less if there wasn't a school in the state of Arizona. Stop acting as if I'm concerned about Arizona's public schools. I'm totally against public education ANYWHERE, because it is simply more socialism. If you want kids, then you should pay for them, period. Not everyone else. The same goes for health care, food, abortions, birth control, and everything else the government is trying to convince people they, "have a right to".

This nation is in the position it's in economically because we've been subsidizing everyone for far too long. If you can't afford to educate your own children, then don't have them. Or expect someone else to pay for them when you do. People no longer have accountability or self reliance. It's why this country is in such a mess, and cities like Detroit and Chicago are drowning in a sea of debt they cannot possibly pay off.