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Old 04-03-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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Old 04-03-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Glad I'm not the only one calling others Chicken Little

Nice to see people starting to push back against this narrative that all is lost in Illinois and you better get out while you can. There are problems, but there is also a lot of good.
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Old 04-03-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Yeah, I grew up in Illinois, left a decade ago and don't ever want to go back.


The cost of living is lower than on the coasts, but I found Chicago to be an extremely conformist, provincial, cliquey city where people just don't have much interest in the wider world. To paraphrase a friend who moved to Chicago from NY, Chicago is a place only for Big 10 sports fans.


I had a lot of good times in the city in my 20s, but I totally outgrew the place. While every once in a while, I torment myself with real estate porn, thinking of the gorgeous lakefront apartment I could buy if I moved back, I know I'd never be happy there.
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Old 04-03-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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John McCarron has ZERO credibility. Like his high school pal, John Cullerton, these guys willingly swallow the nonsense that has driven democrats in Illinois to believe there is a magical Santa Claus to fill the bottomless pit of unfunded pensions. Only an imbecile would ignore the fact that firms are not relocating from expansive suburban campuses to hire more entitiled and worthless millennials but rather to have a cover story to slash their more experienced workforce and get out from under crushing property taxes...
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Old 04-03-2017, 02:31 PM
 
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"Keep that in mind the next time some rich guy tells you we've got to freeze property taxes for schools, or de-politicize the drawing of electoral districts just in Illinois, or impose term limits on elected officials."

That is the dumbest quote of that article and tells me that the author is a hack for the local Democratic machine.

How many people actually love our local politicians so much that they want these ridiculously gerrymandered districts or are opposed to term limits for someone like Madigan?
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Old 04-03-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Yeah, I grew up in Illinois, left a decade ago and don't ever want to go back.


The cost of living is lower than on the coasts, but I found Chicago to be an extremely conformist, provincial, cliquey city where people just don't have much interest in the wider world. To paraphrase a friend who moved to Chicago from NY, Chicago is a place only for Big 10 sports fans.


I had a lot of good times in the city in my 20s, but I totally outgrew the place. While every once in a while, I torment myself with real estate porn, thinking of the gorgeous lakefront apartment I could buy if I moved back, I know I'd never be happy there.
No, that's the shallow Chicago crowd you ran with, amigo. And it's no big surprise a (current) New Yorker said that. They think the world revolves around their self-importance LOL
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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No, that's the shallow Chicago crowd you ran with, amigo. And it's no big surprise a (current) New Yorker said that. They think the world revolves around their self-importance LOL
Haha. Another thing about Chicago - so many people instantly get defensive if you ever dare to as much hint that Chicago isn't the greatest city on the face of the earth.


I've got news for you - I agree with you that so many people in NY are self-important and tiresome. I don't much like them, either. And I definitely don't plan on staying in NY for much longer. But I do like the fact that people here mix much more frequently with others of different cultural backgrounds. And that I'm not the only person I know who speaks another language, or travels abroad on a regular basis. And I definitely don't miss the insular gay scene in Chicago, where pretty much no one I knew had straight male friends, and where all anyone did was go to the same three bars on Halsted every weekend until they died.


Chicagoans think Chicago is a little NY. But it's really a big Milwaukee. And it's not for me. YMMV, if you like it there, great.
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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John McCarron has ZERO credibility. Like his high school pal, John Cullerton, these guys willingly swallow the nonsense that has driven democrats in Illinois to believe there is a magical Santa Claus to fill the bottomless pit of unfunded pensions. Only an imbecile would ignore the fact that firms are not relocating from expansive suburban campuses to hire more entitiled and worthless millennials but rather to have a cover story to slash their more experienced workforce and get out from under crushing property taxes...
Gosh, I googled this guy and read so many negative stories about him my head was spinning.

"While this latest McCarron piece is truly a rambling, illogical diatribe, DePaul University actually retains the man as an adjunct lecturer in its school of communication."

The Rant is Due: Yet Another Anti-Bike Screed From the Trib
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Old 04-03-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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In other news, this is what is being shopped around NWI this week:


Experts: Migration from Illinois to Indiana likely to grow | WGN-TV


Not a lot of beef to that article. Being thrown out there b/c there is a huge political push right now to get NWI locals behind the train extension. (Which will be good but won't be free and some people are really on edge about it all).
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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Haha. Another thing about Chicago - so many people instantly get defensive if you ever dare to as much hint that Chicago isn't the greatest city on the face of the earth.
Nope, not everyone. In no way was I implying as such- only pointing out your very jaded impression based on the 'crowd' you ran with while here.


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I've got news for you - I agree with you that so many people in NY are self-important and tiresome. I don't much like them, either. And I definitely don't plan on staying in NY for much longer. But I do like the fact that people here mix much more frequently with others of different cultural backgrounds. And that I'm not the only person I know who speaks another language, or travels abroad on a regular basis. And I definitely don't miss the insular gay scene in Chicago, where pretty much no one I knew had straight male friends, and where all anyone did was go to the same three bars on Halsted every weekend until they died.
This is more jaded stuff, seriously. Your Chi-town crowd is not mine. There are plenty of folks here who travel and speak more than one language every day. You just needed to get out of whatever myopic social circle you were in. FWIW, my gay friends don't do the Halsted scene and sometimes show up for suburban family dinners (LOL). OK- they are older now, but when they were younger most didn't really hit the bars much AFAIK.


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Chicagoans think Chicago is a little NY. But it's really a big Milwaukee. And it's not for me. YMMV, if you like it there, great.
To each his/her own, we understand this. But any Chicagoan that has actually traveled (again, your people here clearly did not), knows that the best part of Chi-town is that it is *not* New York. Of course it's going to feel more like Milwaukee since they are both in the rust belt and not on a coast.
(Yes, news flash- stop signs are red...)
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