I am fascinated with Hegewisch! (Chicago, Lake Forest: city hall, crime, houses)

[Milwaukee City]

Looks peaceful

hegewisch il - Google Maps

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

Looks peaceful

hegewisch il - Google Maps

Yeah well, there are quite a few neighborhoods in Chicago that look pretty nice once you get off the main drags and onto the residential streets yet you probably wouldn't want to live there. Not that this applies to Hegewisch (yet), but you can't always judge a book by its cover in this town.

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah well, there are quite a few neighborhoods in Chicago that look pretty nice once you get off the main drags and onto the residential streets yet you probably wouldn't want to live there. Not that this applies to Hegewisch (yet), but you can't always judge a book by its cover in this town.

I remember when Manigault posted some peaceful pictures of Englewood. I agree that looks can be very deceiving.

Though, can someone find some peaceful pictures of Gary IN?

[Drover]

Originally Posted by MannheimMadman

I remember when Manigault posted some peaceful pictures of Englewood. I agree that looks can be very deceiving.

Though, can someone find some peaceful pictures of Gary IN?

Sure. There are million+ dollar homes in Miller Beach:

miller beach indiana - Google Maps

miller beach indiana - Google Maps

Now, if million-dollar homes sound pricey for Gary even if they're on the beach, consider that the same homes would probably be 5 to 10 million on the north shore. Seen in that light and knowing this area is isolated away from Gary's urban decay and the problems associated with it, they're actually quite the bargain. Property taxes are a bear though, as they often are in largely distressed cities.

[Hendu]

Originally Posted by williepotatoes

Since when was the area just west of Logan Square christened as Belmont Gardens ????

I've lived there for 6 years and didn't even know anyone called it Belmont Gardens until last February when someone nearby had a house fire and the Trib referred to the neighborhood as Belmont Gardens. We're kind of sandwiched in between hoods here. Not really Logan Square, not really Hermosa, not really Avondale, not really Old Irving, not really Craigin, and on the wrong side of Belmont to be considered Kilbourn Park, but on the wrong side of Diversey to be considered Kelvyn Park. So yeah...Belmont Gardens. Just wondering where those gardens are located.

[GoranW]

Originally Posted by MannheimMadman

I remember when Manigault posted some peaceful pictures of Englewood. I agree that looks can be very deceiving.

Yeah, sometimes people equate dangerous neighborhood with 'horrible blight' which isn't always the case. Many moons ago, I drove through neighborhoods in Jackson, MS that looked like they were straight out of Better Homes and Gardens, but were very high crime and unsafe.

The sad reality is, in spite of Olympia Fields, "Dangerous neighborhood" usually = "black neighborhood" and there are plenty of good, honest black folks who maintain their homes, mow their lawns, grow pretty gardens... They aren't the problem. It's what their 13-30 year old male children are doing in that neighborhood that makes it unlivable for decent folk. There are areas of Roseland that look nice, but are very dangerous. Hegewisch is deceiving like that, too. In the daytime, the areas away from the 'Old Hegewisch' section are *mostly* safe. At night, though, Hegewisch is totally unsafe... and that tells you all there is to know about ANY neighborhood. If you cannot take a midnight stroll without risking being attacked or accosted, that isn't a place you want to live.

Sadly, the Brandon Avenue slumminess is creeping outward and random crime events are happening more and more in the better parts of Hegewisch like Avalon Trains, east of Avenue O, etc. Then, there's the Hispanic Gang issue...

[Milwaukee City]

Originally Posted by GoranW

Yeah, sometimes people equate dangerous neighborhood with 'horrible blight' which isn't always the case.

Spot On! I remember thinking that on my first trip to NYC. I thought I was in a bad area but turns out I was in a hip and trendy area. Now move that area into the midwest and it's ghetto and horrible. I happen to live in one of these areas in MKE and it's an old warehouse district and not all buildings are revived but you do hear from out of towners, is this safe.

[Larry Siegel]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

This is a realtor map that leaves out many neighborhoods and yet creates its own and makes others larger or smaller than they actually are..

...and puts DePaul about 10 blocks northwest of its actual location.

Hegewisch is a very ordinary working class white neighborhood that looks more like neighboring Hammond, Indiana than it does Chicago.

[GoranW]

Originally Posted by Larry Siegel

...and puts DePaul about 10 blocks northwest of its actual location.

Hegewisch is a very ordinary working class white neighborhood that looks more like neighboring Hammond, Indiana than it does Chicago.

Except that it's not a "white neighborhood" anymore, per the 2010 census data. That trend will only continue, and rapidly so...

[Drover]

Originally Posted by GoranW

How many "lovers quarrels" do you know that involve carloads of gang-bangers opening fire?

I thought it unusual for a white girl to get gunned down in a gang drive-by. Then I found a picture of her on the interwebs in thugware and hangin' with cholos. Looks like perhaps she fell in with the wrong crowd.