What's up with DePaul University? (Chicago, Media: student loan, schools, live)

[DrEarth]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Please cite your source for this.

From DePaul's website:

Masters Degree Students

Computer Science Admission Requirements

General Admission Requirements

• Minimum 2.5 cumulative GPA on a 4.0 scale
• Bachelor's degree awarded from a regionally accredited institution
• Test of English Proficiency for international students.

SAT score optional:

DePaul U. Will Make SAT and ACT Optional - Students - The Chronicle of Higher Education

DePaul University will no longer require applicants to submit standardized-test scores for admission. The new policy, announced on Thursday morning, makes DePaul the largest private nonprofit university to go completely "test optional."

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by DrEarth

From DePaul's website:

Masters Degree Students

Your original message said no GRE. Nowhere for Computer Science does it say that. Also references are not required, but it looks like they're encouraged.


Let me make this easy for you. I have a degree in Computer Science. I've worked as an assistant researcher in a computer science department at a major university before. I have a cousin who is the chairman of one of the top Computer Science graduate programs in the world. I have many friends and family with PhD/MS in Computer Science (and other disciplines). You could say I am kind of familiar with this.

1) The minimum GPA required means nothing. The entire process puts a low-ish limit on some of these things, but they aren't taken very seriously at any respected Computer Science graduate program. A low 2.5 GPA is basically put out there for various circumstances, just like at a job. In case you had a circumstance such as a newborn child, had to work to support your family, AND go to school at the same time (or a combination of those), they will give you the benefit of the doubt, just like a lot of major employers do. If this is the case, then they will hold your GRE scores more highly than your GPA.

2) Even if you slip through the cracks, there are other controls that will weed out the people who shouldn't have been there in the first place. This usually doesn't happen though. My undergraduate Computer Science program started with over 150 people in my class. By the time I received my degree, only 10 of us actually graduated with degrees in Computer Science. A masters course is even worse. So if you somehow get accepted with a 2.5 GPA to the program, if you don't know your stuff, you will be weeded out within the first semester. Computer Science is one of the hardest majors out there.

Even if DePaul doesn't require testing, which I guarantee you for a program like Computer Science, it would be "encouraged." In any case, the second point I bring up would apply. People would be weeded out very easily.


I encourage you to learn more about how some graduate programs work and why some requirements are the way they are.

[HarmanFox]

The thing about DePaul is that their tuition rates are extremely high compared to other schools in the region such as UIC and Northern. The trick is landing a career where you'll make enough to pay off the student loans.

[DrEarth]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Your original message said no GRE. Nowhere for Computer Science does it say that. Also references are not required, but it looks like they're encouraged.


Let me make this easy for you. I have a degree in Computer Science. I've worked as an assistant researcher in a computer science department at a major university before. I have a cousin who is the chairman of one of the top Computer Science graduate programs in the world. I have many friends and family with PhD/MS in Computer Science (and other disciplines). You could say I am kind of familiar with this.

1) The minimum GPA required means nothing. The entire process puts a low-ish limit on some of these things, but they aren't taken very seriously at any respected Computer Science graduate program. A low 2.5 GPA is basically put out there for various circumstances, just like at a job. In case you had a circumstance such as a newborn child, had to work to support your family, AND go to school at the same time (or a combination of those), they will give you the benefit of the doubt, just like a lot of major employers do. If this is the case, then they will hold your GRE scores more highly than your GPA.

2) Even if you slip through the cracks, there are other controls that will weed out the people who shouldn't have been there in the first place. This usually doesn't happen though. My undergraduate Computer Science program started with over 150 people in my class. By the time I received my degree, only 10 of us actually graduated with degrees in Computer Science. A masters course is even worse. So if you somehow get accepted with a 2.5 GPA to the program, if you don't know your stuff, you will be weeded out within the first semester. Computer Science is one of the hardest majors out there.

Even if DePaul doesn't require testing, which I guarantee you for a program like Computer Science, it would be "encouraged." In any case, the second point I bring up would apply. People would be weeded out very easily.


I encourage you to learn more about how some graduate programs work and why some requirements are the way they are.

If the GRE was required, it would be listed under General Admission Requirements, as it is under computational finance.

Yes, it is my fault for questioning the standards of programs I'm not applying to.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by DrEarth

If the GRE was required, it would be listed under General Admission Requirements, as it is under computational finance.

Yes, it is my fault for questioning the standards of programs I'm not applying to.

Masters might not require a GRE score, but I bet they still might "encourage" it and it might have to do with the second article you pasted. Although it's not ACT or SAT, it's possible for certain degree programs they extended it to some other smaller-scale tests. PhD program still absolutely requires it.

You are the original poster of this. Instead of attack a degree program, why not do more research? Things are not always what they seem and require more research.

[Plzeň]

Originally Posted by HarmanFox

The thing about DePaul is that their tuition rates are extremely high compared to other schools in the region such as UIC and Northern. The trick is landing a career where you'll make enough to pay off the student loans.

You forgot to add something blaming it all on any random group of people who aren't straight, white, and Christian. C'mon, man, we're counting on you at this point. Don't let us down. You're going to lose your troll card.

[chrawnick]

Originally Posted by Plzeň

You forgot to add something blaming it all on any random group of people who aren't straight, white, and Christian. C'mon, man, we're counting on you at this point. Don't let us down. You're going to lose your troll card.

I was just thinking this, lol!

[HarmanFox]

Originally Posted by Plzeň

You forgot to add something blaming it all on any random group of people who aren't straight, white, and Christian. C'mon, man, we're counting on you at this point. Don't let us down. You're going to lose your troll card.

Nice of you two to hijack this guy's thread. BTW, referring to someone as a "troll" is no different than referring to them as a "racist". Both words are overused here.

[chrawnick]

Speaking of DePaul, I applied to Harold Washington because CCC has a transfer program with DePaul.

I sent my high school transcript in but...they want my high school diploma as well.



Is this a new thing because I've never heard of colleges asking for an actual high school diploma until now.

[emathias]

Originally Posted by DrEarth

If the GRE was required, it would be listed under General Admission Requirements, as it is under computational finance.

Yes, it is my fault for questioning the standards of programs I'm not applying to.

Instead of questioning admission standards, you should be investigating the reputation of those who graduate. Even if they let everyone into the program, if everyone who actually finishes the program is well-respected, knows their stuff and considered their time there worthwhile, then that would be far more important than competitive entrance. Unless you're someone who mistakes prestige for education.