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Old 10-31-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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amen :Chi-town Native


.....Your Lack Of Insight And Compassion Make You Ugly -
those hollering the loudest should read that article.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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For those of you who mentioned Cabrini Green ,obviously don't live in Chicago as that housing project was demolished years ago. Former residents cannot afford to rent in that gentrified area.Most average wage people can't rent or buy there now.
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: 79th St, Southside Chicago
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Social welfare has existed across times and societies, I'm not exactly sure why SOME people in modern America have so much animosity towards the poor. For example, I'm Muslim so in my religion under Shariah Law, all Muslim countries are COMMANDED to spend a percentage of the national income on welfare/charity to the poor people, and individual people are encouraged to give food and money to the poor on the streets. But in America, it's backwards, people having this animalistic "every dog for himself mentality", human beings are born with compassion. It's society and bad cultural values that turns people against their poor. In some places, it's like an honor to take care of a poor person, here people complain about it like selfish animals
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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The average Walmart costs US taxpayers something like $900,000 a year because of the Walton family's refusal to pay the vast majority of their employees a living wage. Same with fast food places. I saw a video online where a McDonald's employee who had worked there for 10 years called their employee help line and they told her to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. She's a single mom with 2 kids and she'd never gotten a raise. Meanwhile, corporate profits are obscene. Some of these CEOs make in a day what their employees make in a year...
So you believe that is McDonald's fault that the woman did not receive a raise in 10 years and that she has 2 kids with no apparent father around?

How about some personal responsibility? What did she do in 10 years to either better herself or her 2 children and because she did nothing apparently, it is McDonald's fault that she is still in the same job that new-to-the-workforce teenagers routinely work at?

As a side note, WHO are YOU to decide whether a corporation's profits are enough or "obscene"? That CEO makes that much because without that CEO, that person making minimum wage or near to it, probably wouldn't have a job at all. If the corporation shareholders don't like the CEO's pay, they are free to vote out the board and CEO and start fresh.
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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As a side note, WHO are YOU to decide whether a corporation's profits are enough or "obscene"? That CEO makes that much because without that CEO, that person making minimum wage or near to it, probably wouldn't have a job at all. If the corporation shareholders don't like the CEO's pay, they are free to vote out the board and CEO and start fresh.
If it wasn't for customers, neither the CEO or the store workers would have jobs. If it weren't for people willing to take those low-wage jobs to make sure the store was ran and serve customers, it would lose business. The CEO would have to do all the grunt work and not have a desk to sit at if there weren't people there to run the restaurants. Unfortunately the people who actually do run the restaurants make the least amount of money.

People need to stop judging the poor. Just because you may make more money that doesn't mean your job is any more safe. Unless you own the business you are working for, you are just a cog in the machine making someone else rich just like everybody else.

As long as you are an employee, your livelihood is never safe.
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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If it wasn't for customers, neither the CEO or the store workers would have jobs. If it weren't for people willing to take those low-wage jobs to make sure the store was ran and serve customers, it would lose business. The CEO would have to do all the grunt work and not have a desk to sit at if there weren't people there to run the restaurants. Unfortunately the people who actually do run the restaurants make the least amount of money.

People need to stop judging the poor. Just because you may make more money that doesn't mean your job is any more safe. Unless you own the business you are working for, you are just a cog in the machine making someone else rich just like everybody else.

As long as you are an employee, your livelihood is never safe.
You got part of it right - The Customer.
The Customer ultimately decides whether or not a business succeeds or fails and it is The Customer that provides all of the pay for the company's employees, CEO, provides the money for profits and it is actually The Customer that pays the company's taxes.

It isn't about judging the poor. This woman, appears to have done nothing to better herself or her "family" in 10 years and expects that others are to do something for her. Where is the personal responsibility?
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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big time corporations don't pay all their taxes.. they take more money then any one could ever in the projects. if all the people in the projects died tomorrow, america would still be in trouble because the really rich don't pay their correct taxes
Is this in jest or you actually believe this? If the 'rich' were taxed 100% of their income, we still would be screwed. Our bloated out of control government spends too much, and entitlement fraud is just part of it, albeit nothing to ignore. Financing foreign wars, subsidies for large corporations, paying government employees to sit around and do nothing, overpaying for government projects and contracts... it ALL adds up and is all disgusting. People defrauding food stamps happens to strike a chord with me, because an adult's basic pride in life should be independence. Taking money that you don't need and didn't earn from people who did is theft, plain and simple. It's such commonplace now that the basic principles of supporting yourself and not stealing from your neighbor are lost in some grey area; by design.

The dollar amount spent on entitlements does not come close to accurately reflecting the negative impact on the economy when you factor in lost jobs, productivity, retail spending and so on.

I blame the system first and the individual second, but still both. Shame on people.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Personally, I judge the people of all means who apparently eat at McDonald's so often it has risen to the position of power it's in now.

Once upon a time going to McDonald's was a treat saved for special occasions, not a substitute for just making your own meals.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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You got part of it right - The Customer.
The Customer ultimately decides whether or not a business succeeds or fails and it is The Customer that provides all of the pay for the company's employees, CEO, provides the money for profits and it is actually The Customer that pays the company's taxes.

It isn't about judging the poor. This woman, appears to have done nothing to better herself or her "family" in 10 years and expects that others are to do something for her. Where is the personal responsibility?
Would you not expect a raise if you put in years of service somewhere?
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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Default A simple question

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You got part of it right - The Customer.
The Customer ultimately decides whether or not a business succeeds or fails and it is The Customer that provides all of the pay for the company's employees, CEO, provides the money for profits and it is actually The Customer that pays the company's taxes.

It isn't about judging the poor. This woman, appears to have done nothing to better herself or her "family" in 10 years and expects that others are to do something for her. Where is the personal responsibility?
If (and it's an IF) you were in this woman's shoes what would you have done to better yourself and your family in the same ten year span of time? Just curious...and if you don't mind my asking because we have all been in situations where someone has inevitably said, "If it were me, I would have...", here's an opportunity to say what you would do/have done given the same circumstances.
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