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View Poll Results: What will happen with the Lucas Museum
built on current lakefront location 22 73.33%
built elsewhere in Chicago 6 20.00%
Chicago loses project and built in another city 2 6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-25-2016, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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It's this mind set that keeps Chicago from progress. Downtown is best it's been in my lifetime. That's almost 50 years. Parking lots used for Bears tailgaters a few times a year are now considered parks vs museums with green space.

Chicago is quickly becoming a joke and clearly not a first tier US city.
Seriously? WTF? Chicago didn't prevent this from happening...a small group of unelected zealots turned this into a court case that got dragged on and on. Without FOTP, this museum would already be built.

I suppose San Francisco which fumbled the Lucas Museum in the first place, giving Chicago its opportunity, is "not a first tier US city".

BS

IMHO, Chicago is not only "a first tier US city" (no opinion on that one....it unquestionably simply is) and "first tier global city" that has so much going for it. Yes, we've got problems, but I believe those will be solved.

Lucas created this mess; he insusted on a prime waterfront site. Obviously a location in the Presidio, hard by the waters of the Golden Gate or a tract of prime downtown parkland alobg Chicago's lakefront would be an exceedingly diffixult task

I am more than happy to call this blockbuster, amazing, fantastic city home.

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Old 06-25-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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I just went swimming at the beach just south of the Planetarium and east of Northerly Island. My thoughts on the museum:

1. I'm glad the museum is not being built on the lakefront but sad it's leaving Chicago. We need more revenue and tourism but not at the expense of the lakefront. I know it's a parking lot now but building another structure doesn't right a wrong. And the design was awful.

2. Do people forget how Daley bulldozed Meigs field and turned it into Northerly Island? We lost revenue but Chicago is still alive and awesome and it's turned into a major benefit to the city. Let's do the exact same with Lakefront East and the parking lot! Remember that tourists AND residents also come and stay in Chicago because of the beautiful lakefront.

3. A bit of trivia...Montgomery Ward spent his life protecting the lakefront parks and suing anyone who would develop on it. So thank you to Friends of the Park and Ward and others who preserve it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Montgomery_Ward
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Seriously? WTF? Chicago didn't prevent this from happening...a small group of unelected zealots turned this into a court case that got dragged on and on. Without FOTP, this museum would already be built.
You need to get out into the real world. If you read the comments in the Trib, 95% of commenters are happy about the decision. Boo-hoo. No Chewbaca sippy-cups for the kids.

The VAST majority of Chicagoans have no problem with a petulant billioinaire not spoiling the waterfront with a subsidized Star Wars attraction. There's already much too much development along lakefront parkland. The people are saying "no more" already.

Chicago is a great town and doesn't need to ***** itself with stupid carnival attractions, and if Lucas really wanted to build in Chicago, he could do so, very easily. No one will care about Star Wars 20 years from now. If you really want to ***** the city out, I'm sure when the Transformers Museum is announced, you can bid for it (but just remember to call it something fancy like "Transformational Art Museum of Robotic Technology" or something.)
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Old 06-25-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You need to get out into the real world. If you read the comments in the Trib, 95% of commenters are happy about the decision. Boo-hoo. No Chewbaca sippy-cups for the kids.

The VAST majority of Chicagoans have no problem with a petulant billioinaire not spoiling the waterfront with a subsidized Star Wars attraction. There's already much too much development along lakefront parkland. The people are saying "no more" already.

Chicago is a great town and doesn't need to ***** itself with stupid carnival attractions, and if Lucas really wanted to build in Chicago, he could do so, very easily. No one will care about Star Wars 20 years from now. If you really want to ***** the city out, I'm sure when the Transformers Museum is announced, you can bid for it (but just remember to call it something fancy like "Transformational Art Museum of Robotic Technology" or something.)
we've won over NOLA! Break out the champagne... or bourbon... as we're celebrating big time on Bourbon Street tonight.

Laissez les bons temps rouler en Chicageaux!!!!!
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Old 06-26-2016, 06:06 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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You need to get out into the real world. If you read the comments in the Trib, 95% of commenters are happy about the decision. Boo-hoo. No Chewbaca sippy-cups for the kids.

The VAST majority of Chicagoans have no problem with a petulant billioinaire not spoiling the waterfront with a subsidized Star Wars attraction. There's already much too much development along lakefront parkland. The people are saying "no more" already.

Chicago is a great town and doesn't need to ***** itself with stupid carnival attractions, and if Lucas really wanted to build in Chicago, he could do so, very easily. No one will care about Star Wars 20 years from now. If you really want to ***** the city out, I'm sure when the Transformers Museum is announced, you can bid for it (but just remember to call it something fancy like "Transformational Art Museum of Robotic Technology" or something.)
Do you not read so good?
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Old 06-26-2016, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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It would be interesting to survey people by race.

I'd be curious to see what % of White people in Chicago think, and then the % of Hispanic and Black people.
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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Do you not read so good?
I have no idea what this is in reference to.

Are you arguing that the Trib comments aren't overwhelmingly supportive of this carnival attraction leaving town?
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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You need to get out into the real world. If you read the comments in the Trib, 95% of commenters are happy about the decision. Boo-hoo. No Chewbaca sippy-cups for the kids.

The VAST majority of Chicagoans have no problem with a petulant billioinaire not spoiling the waterfront with a subsidized Star Wars attraction. There's already much too much development along lakefront parkland. The people are saying "no more" already.

Chicago is a great town and doesn't need to ***** itself with stupid carnival attractions, and if Lucas really wanted to build in Chicago, he could do so, very easily. No one will care about Star Wars 20 years from now. If you really want to ***** the city out, I'm sure when the Transformers Museum is announced, you can bid for it (but just remember to call it something fancy like "Transformational Art Museum of Robotic Technology" or something.)
The meuseum has nothing to do with Star Wars. Where Is it called the Star Wars meuseum!?If your going to comment on it, I would think you had a clue about what it actually was. So just because he made a few Star Wars movie that means everything he does in life has to be related to Star Wars!?! It's a meuseum of narrative art. Not Star Wars! Educate yourself.

[url=http://lucasmuseum.org]The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art[/url]
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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Chicago, in the long run, probably benefits from not wasting a billion bucks on a Star Wars museum. No one will care about Star Wars and George Lucas in 20 years. In this case, Rahm's idiocy might benefit the city in the long run.

But maybe Indy can be in the running when the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles museum is announced.
It's not a Star Wars museum. its a meuseum of narrative art.

[url=http://lucasmuseum.org]The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art[/url]
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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It is dishonest to say that Mr. Lucas collection "has nothing to do with Star Wars" -- click on link and it is apparent that at least HALF of the "stuff" that Mr. Lucas wants to get out of warehouses are clearly things that ARE from the production of Star Wars -- Set Design - The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art
It is further FACT that when Mr. Lucas sold LucasFilms to Disney in 2012 that the sales price was almost exclusively based on the imputed value of revenue from future Star Wars related media -- George Lucas Net Worth - TheRichest

How Disney Bought Lucasfilm and its Plans for Star Wars

Anyone that was paying attention to why San Francisco rejected previous efforts to accept Mr. Lucas conditions around a museum should understand that the sound reasons for rejection also would have made it hard to ensure any such museum in Chicago was not also doomed -- How George Lucas bid for a museum at the Presidio was doomed

His new plan, to try and get a deal for the "Treasure Island" site in SF bay also faces high hurdles -- Chronicle Comes Out In Favor Of Lucas Museum, With Conditions: SFist

The "short story" is despite Mr. Lucas success from the Original Star Wars, he really is not very good at dealing with either the money people in the movie business or any traditional political structure, folks have literally made books and movies that detail his "quirkyness" -- https://www.amazon.com/People-Vs-Geo.../dp/B005FUTCCM
https://www.amazon.com/How-Star-Wars.../dp/0465049893

More than a few folks believe Mr. Lucas suffers from something like autism or Aspergers --
https://aspergerssearch.wordpress.co...of-creativity/
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