Neighborhood Safety Gradient? (Chicago, Cicero, Lincoln: high crime, to buy, income)

[mel2000]

Roseland should be just above Englewood and Washington Park should be above Roseland.

[Fame Throwa]

Lookout Kid,

What is your reasoning in putting Uptown above Logan Square? Did you look at crime statistics? If so, which ones did you use?

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by Fame Throwa

Lookout Kid,

What is your reasoning in putting Uptown above Logan Square? Did you look at crime statistics? If so, which ones did you use?

I look at the CPD annual crime reports, which vary from year to year. Logan Square and Uptown are pretty darn close in terms of crime rates, so they're close together in the list.

[Fame Throwa]

Thanks, Lookout Kid!

If anyone else is interested, the CPD Annual Reports are available here.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by Fame Throwa

Thanks, Lookout Kid!

If anyone else is interested, the CPD Annual Reports are available here.

Note that they only break things down by official Community Area, not non-official neighborhood names. So places like "Pilsen", "Wicker Park", and "Bucktown" will not be included in that data. I'm just guessing that Wicker Park and Bucktown are safer than the rest of West Town as a whole, but have no proof of that. The numbers in these crime reports are total numbers, and not per capita. For rough violent crime per capita numbers, here's a map from 2006:

[Avengerfire]

I looked up the total number of crimes by neighborhood on the CPD Clearmap. These stats are pretty much good for the 2009 calendar year. Of course, I have not listed them in order by community population or number of crimes per capita. When I have time I will elaborate further-unless someone else volunteers to add to my work of course.

Here are the groupings of TOTAL crime by community area the last 365 days:

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10000 incidents or more

1.Austin (25,112)
2.South Shore (12,545)
3.Humboldt Park (12,230)
4.Near North Side (12,024)
5.West Town (11,474)
6.Auburn Gresham (11,295)
7.West Englewood (11,158)
8.Roseland (10,889)
9.Englewood (10,357)
10.Near West Side (10,074)
11.Chicago Lawn (10,071)

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Bewteen 8000 and 9999

12.North Lawndale (9,932)
13.Greater Grand Crossing (9,290)
14.Logan Square (8,350)
15.Belmont Cragin (8,076)
16.Chatham (8,017)

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Between 5000 and 7999

17.New City (7,936)
18.Loop (7,840)
19.Lake View (7,637)
20.South Chicago (7,,356)
21.East Garfield Park (6,898)
22.Woodlawn (6,608)
23.West Pullman (6,491)
24.South Lawndale (6,203)
25.West Garfield Park (6,029)
26.Lincoln Park (5,944)
27.Rogers Park (5,892)
28.Portage Park (5,193)
29.West Ridge (5,154)
30.Grand Boulevard (5,150)
31.Uptown (5,134)

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Between 3001 and 4999

32.Irving Park (4,539)
33.Washington Heights (4,532)
34.Washington Park (4,136)
35.Gage Park (3,822)
36.Brighton Park (3,760)
37.Avondale (3,708)
38.Ashburn (3,624)
39.Edgewater (3,549)
40.Albany Park (3,518)
41.Lower West Side (3,463)
42.Morgan Park (3,272)
43.Garfield Ridge (3,196)
44.Douglas (3,104)

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Between 2001 and 3000

45.West Lawn (2,988)
46.Dunning (2,648)
47.Lincoln Square (2,636)
48.Bridgeport (2,478)
49.South Deering (2,426)
50.North Center (2,393)
51.Hermosa (2,343)
52.Near South Side (2,288)
53.Kenwood (2,255)
54.Calumet Heights (2,028)
55.O'Hare (2,022)
56.Hyde Park (2,010)
57.East Side (2,008)

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Between 1001 and 2000

58.Avalon Park (1,954)
59.Clearing (1,708)
60.Norwood Park (1,700)
61.McKinley Park (1,698)
62.Archer Heights (1,646)
63.Jefferson Park (1,507)
64.West Elsdon (1,577)
65.Pullman (1,391)
66.Beverly (1,389)
67.Riverdale (1,347)
68.North Park (1,288)
69.Armor Square (1,200)
70.Fuller Park (1,113)
71.Montclare (1,051)

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Between 0 and 1000

72.Mount Greenwood (871)
73.Oakland (825)
74.Hegewisch (801)
75.Forest Glen (723)
76.Burnside (579)
77. Edison Park (385)

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

So I was visiting a friend in Cook County jail, and was comming in from the IKE, got off at cicero and took it to cermak until i hit california, what neighborhood am I going thru? Everyone told me how dangerous it was to go there, but it didn't seem that bad, even at 8pm, in a car.

[JoeyPants]

The stats don't take into account who the violent crime is directed toward. So the safety level is different for different types of people. Much of the crime in Pilsen and Logan Square is directed towards gang members. As a non gang member, I feel safer in Logan Square and Pilsen then I do in Rogers Park or Uptown. I don't have the stats regarding Rogers Park, but I'm willing to bet they have more muggings or random violent crime then Logan Square or Pilsen does.

[surlycue]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

So I was visiting a friend in Cook County jail, and was comming in from the IKE, got off at cicero and took it to cermak until i hit california, what neighborhood am I going thru? Everyone told me how dangerous it was to go there, but it didn't seem that bad, even at 8pm, in a car.

You would have driven through South Lawndale at the west and Little Village on the eastern end. Lawndale is nothing to scoff at but it is much worse further north where it borders Garfield Park.

[JoeyPants]

Originally Posted by surlycue

You would have driven through South Lawndale at the west and Little Village on the eastern end. Lawndale is nothing to scoff at but it is much worse further north where it borders Garfield Park.

South Lawndale is Little Village.