If someone couldn't love the ET God, would it be their fault?

[herefornow]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

On the net I've come across people who are rightly confused about the whole matter of 'how to get saved.' Modern Christianity does indeed make it too easy imo. It's 'quick fix' theology. Why? Because the consequences are so f**king bad! Accepting Christ is only half of it. There is an emphasis on sin being forgiven and on faith in place of actually following God's word and conforming to his will. Yes, alot of those who, during some Billy Graham rally or similar, who say the 'sinner's prayer' and all that, merely to satiate their peace of mind so they will not suffer forever and ever. It's grotesque and horror-show esque...and while many are indeed 'saved' in this way, without the proper background it deceives many as well. Like the parable of the sower.

I don't believe they are saved even if they confess, because their confession is done out of emotional manipulation and fears of hell, which has absolutely nothing to do with true salvation. In fact, from my experience, it does the opposite and ties you into a web of deceit and makes people pawns of a political machine. The Protestant church has done no better than the Jews and Catholics before them. I don't know what in the world would make them think they have the truth tied in a neat little box.

To be saved means having spiritual health:

1. Coming out from the deceptions and veils of religion.
2. Coming out of the whor* that rules the political realm.
3. Understanding the love of God.
4. Understanding what it TRULY means to love your enemies.
5. Coming out from among those who fear.

We are BEING saved. It is a process, and we have to get off the milk and stop fearing those Pharisees in authority and use the Spirit that we were ALL given.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by herefornow

To be saved means having spiritual health:

1. Coming out from the deceptions and veils of religion.
2. Coming out of the whor* that rules the political realm.
3. Understanding the love of God.
4. Understanding what it TRULY means to love your enemies.
5. Coming out from among those who fear.

We are BEING saved. It is a process, and we have to get off the milk and stop fearing those Pharisees in authority and use the Spirit that we were ALL given.

Amen . . . but the Good News is better than that, herefornow . . . our entire species was saved by Jesus through His rebirth as Spirit. What you and so many others are referring to is sanctification . . . the building on the foundation Jesus has laid. That is achieving spiritual maturity and spiritual health. We can build with hay, stubble, wood . . . or gold, and silver, etc. Either way . . . it will be tested by fire with loss or gain . . . but we are saved in any case.

[Jerwade]

There are some who may want to consider or investigate this: What does it mean to be saved?

1) Hebrew word for Salvation is yeshuwah, and literally means; saved, abstractly, deliverance.
2) Greek word in the New Testament is soteria, and literally means; the act of physical and moral rescue.

[ahigherway]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

Amen . . . but the Good News is better than that, herefornow . . . our entire species was saved by Jesus through His rebirth as Spirit. What you and so many others are referring to is sanctification . . . the building on the foundation Jesus has laid. That is achieving spiritual maturity and spiritual health. We can build with hay, stubble, wood . . . or gold, and silver, etc. Either way . . . it will be tested by fire with loss or gain . . . but we are saved in any case.

Nice post, Mystic!
The first Adam reproduced himself only after being sent out of the garden, bringing forth only cursing.
The last Adam never sinned and therefore remains in the garden, bringing forth only blessing.

Blessings!
Brian