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To the contrary. The fact that the body is resurrected is spoken of a number of times in the Scriptures. The salvation of the body refers to the resurrection of the body.
I hope you are not saying that the physical body will be resurrected.
1COR 15:36 "You fool, that which you sow is not quickened, except it die:
1COR 15:37 "And that which you sow, you sow not that body that shall be.
1COR 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1COR 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1COR 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
You're welcome Finn. I have gone over what Jesus said in Luke 17:21 a long time ago on this forum. But as you know, no matter what the particular subject is, many, or perhaps most people believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. You can present the most extensive evidence from the Bible and they will not listen.
Or, you can read what Jesus actually said in the text, and believe it. None of the so called "grammatical evidence" you've presented can change what was recorded in the text, modern translations not withstanding.
The text has been faithfully translated into the English language for the last 600 years, starting with perhaps John Wycliffe in 1395, here:
Luk 17:21 nether thei schulen seie, Lo! here, or lo there; for lo! the rewme of God is with ynne you.
later, by Tyndale in 1534, here:
Luk 17:21 Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is with in you.
Then with the KJV in 1611, etc., and then the American Revision committees (ASV 1901), here:
Luk 17:21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
The translation evidence is clearly in agreement with what the actual Greek word εντος means, and what Jesus said.
You really do not believe the scriptures Mike, you simply believe what agrees with your preconceived doctrines of men. And, when in doubt or when those doctrines clearly are refuted by scripture, you'll appeal to the teachings of men for validation.
WOW...you are absolutely clueless, given what you've just posted, regarding the metaphorical nature and the spiritual truths being revealed regarding what the resurrection means...for it has absolutely NOTHING to do with our physical bodies...you've been seriously misled.
No christygrl. The Bible speaks of a physical resurrection of the body. The resurrected body will be glorified and immortal, and will be capable of inhabiting heaven, but it will still be a physical body.
Phil 3:21 'who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.
Or, you can read what Jesus actually said in the text, and believe it. None of the so called "grammatical evidence" you've presented can change what was recorded in the text, modern translations not withstanding.
The text has been faithfully translated into the English language for the last 600 years, starting with perhaps John Wycliffe in 1395, here:
Luk 17:21 nether thei schulen seie, Lo! here, or lo there; for lo! the rewme of God is with ynne you.
later, by Tyndale in 1534, here:
Luk 17:21 Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is with in you.
Then with the KJV in 1611, etc., and then the American Revision committees (ASV 1901), here:
Luk 17:21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
The translation evidence is clearly in agreement with what the actual Greek word εντος means, and what Jesus said.
You really do not believe the scriptures Mike, you simply believe what agrees with your preconceived doctrines of men. And, when in doubt or when those doctrines clearly are refuted by scripture, you'll appeal to the teachings of men for validation.
You big headed heavy headed silly boy , or is that me calling the kettle black ?
I hope you are not saying that the physical body will be resurrected.
1COR 15:36 "You fool, that which you sow is not quickened, except it die:
1COR 15:37 "And that which you sow, you sow not that body that shall be.
1COR 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1COR 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1COR 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
I am saying that the physical body will be resurrected but will be raised as a body of incorruptability and immortality, just as Jesus' body was physically resurrected. That does not mean that it isn't a spiritual body. But it will be a body of flesh and bone, just as Jesus' resurrected body is. See Luke 24:39 ''See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.''
No christygrl. The Bible speaks of a physical resurrection of the body. The resurrected body will be glorified and immortal, and will be capable of inhabiting heaven, but it will still be a physical body.
Phil 3:21 'who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.
"Who will transform the body" can't you see that? Transform means it will not be of the same nature. "conformity to the body of His Glory." Glory is means the Beauty of His charactor. It is a Spiritual state of being. But it doesn't no matter. What will happen will happen no matter what you or I think.
I am saying that the physical body will be resurrected but will be raised as a body of incorruptability and immortality, just as Jesus' body was physically resurrected. That does not mean that it isn't a spiritual body. But it will be a body of flesh and bone, just as Jesus' resurrected body is. See Luke 24:39 ''See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.''
He needed to present Himself in the physical to prove the resurection but we shall be like Him, not the same.
Or, you can read what Jesus actually said in the text, and believe it. None of the so called "grammatical evidence" you've presented can change what was recorded in the text, modern translations not withstanding.
The text has been faithfully translated into the English language for the last 600 years, starting with perhaps John Wycliffe in 1395, here:
Luk 17:21 nether thei schulen seie, Lo! here, or lo there; for lo! the rewme of God is with ynne you.
later, by Tyndale in 1534, here:
Luk 17:21 Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is with in you.
Then with the KJV in 1611, etc., and then the American Revision committees (ASV 1901), here:
Luk 17:21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
The translation evidence is clearly in agreement with what the actual Greek word εντος means, and what Jesus said.
You really do not believe the scriptures Mike, you simply believe what agrees with your preconceived doctrines of men. And, when in doubt or when those doctrines clearly are refuted by scripture, you'll appeal to the teachings of men for validation.
As I just told another, most people believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts. You are one of those people. Jesus said that the kingdom was in your midst. Not that it was inside you.
He needed to present Himself in the physical to prove the resurection but we shall be like Him, not the same.
Jesus' resurrected body is physical as ours will be. The resurrected Jesus will physically sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem when He returns to the earth. Again, the resurrected body will be incorruptable and immortal, but it will be physical.
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, or is that me calling the kettle black ?
