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Old 06-10-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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Well now,

In the first earth age posters, T-rex ran on earth in the flesh. All our Fathers Children ( Sons of God ) had our glorifide body, spirital bodys. Just like our brother satan or the fallen angles the book of jude discribes.

Billions of years ago.

Satan drew a third of our Fathers children as they was fallowing him and the wicked ways he started. This was back then billions of years ago. In the first earth age. You and I and every flesh human was there. As Sons of God,his children.

The destruction is known as the catapul. The over throw of satan.

You can read of it in our Fathers letter in Jeremiah 4
But ask you Father to remove the blinders of romans 11 so you might have eyes to see.

Our Father said: ye must be born again.
Will make man ( flesh in our image )
He included Himself.

Jesus said if you seen me you seen the Father.

Jesus was God manafested in the Flesh.

You have to understand the three earth age's to understand our Fathers letter and His 7-thousand year plan.

2- Petter 3

Again ask for understanding

This flesh age 2nd is a test age.

The 3rd the Kingdom to Come.

Heaven right here on earth.

Ibe
Ibe a Disciple of Jesus Christ
Ibe in His Service

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Old 06-11-2014, 10:06 PM
 
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Your rebuttal isn't really coherent. Since Christians BELIEVE the Genesis account to one degree or another, they accept the notion that pain and death entered creation through the sin of Adam and that it will be ultimately done away with through Christ. And this belief is inevitably in conflict with the premise of naturalistic evolution. This is a doctrine of the Bible that cannot be rejected, without rejecting Christianity altogether.

Nothing else we believe about the various interpretations of Genesis in terms of time or meaning are really a problem in the context of evolutionary theory. But you have to believe it all started and ends with a miracle.
"...to one degree or another" which includes a large number of Christians who recognize that Genesis is a story, akin to the parables that Jesus told, not intended to be taken literally, but to convey a lesson.

Even among Christians who take Genesis more or less literally I don't know many who think that death didn't exist before the Fall. (What did the lions eat, veggies?)
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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It's God's pure truth, not "fiction".
Bideshi

Jesus told a parable about 10 bridesmaids. Five were wise and brought extra oil for their lamps, and five were foolish and didn't bring any oil, thus they were unprepared when the bridegroom showed up. Are we supposed to believe this actually happened? It's possible, but it doesn't matter, because the story is not about lamps and bridesmaids, it's about being prepared for the coming of Christ.

Similarly, Genesis said a talking snake tempted Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. Did this really happen? I doubt it, but it doesn't matter because the story is not about a snake and a garden, it's about sin and temptation.

A story can be fiction and God's truth at the same time.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:44 PM
 
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Bideshi

Jesus told a parable about 10 bridesmaids. Five were wise and brought extra oil for their lamps, and five were foolish and didn't bring any oil, thus they were unprepared when the bridegroom showed up. Are we supposed to believe this actually happened? It's possible, but it doesn't matter, because the story is not about lamps and bridesmaids, it's about being prepared for the coming of Christ.

Similarly, Genesis said a talking snake tempted Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. Did this really happen? I doubt it, but it doesn't matter because the story is not about a snake and a garden, it's about sin and temptation.

A story can be fiction and God's truth at the same time.

The bible is fiction. It was written and edited by man in the last thousand or so years and it is not meant to be literal. It was mans way of explaining God to others. I was raised catholic and spent my whole life in catholic school. We were taught the bible is a collection of stories about God, written by man, to spread Gods word. You can believe in science and still be true to the bible. The priests and nuns taught us that as long as you believe that God created earth and set things in motion, then you are still being true to your faith. It wasn't meant to be written as scientific fact, even the Vatican has come out and agreed with evolution.
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