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Old 11-20-2012, 06:54 PM
 
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"My" doctrine is based on scripures and .... and where you thought that I was Catholic I have no clue.

- Of The Trinity, where Jesus is God, is Catholic doctrine.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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What exactly does that mean? How did Jesus show us that we can reach God? Can you explain your thoughts a bit more? I'm just not sure I understood that.

These are my thoughts Vizio

Every thing in Jesus' 3 year ministry and his examples of how to pray showed how we reach God. It only takes the faith of a tiny mustard seed you know.

Jesus showed us love, compassion while he was flesh and blood then gave us the Holy Spirit after His death to continue to aid us in reaching God, through our prayer, our actions and deeds.

No rules, no tricks, nothing but a sincere desire to be "in touch" with Him
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

This is a pretty awesome.
When we were God's enemy, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son.
How much more (having been reconciled) shall we be saved through his life.


Abundantly, overflowing the cup, which is cleansed from the inside; out.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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I figured that most who post in this forum, knew(even if they don't believe it) that the Bible teaches the doctrine of the Trinity. That is to say that the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God. I will not bother to go into the scriptures testimony about the Holy Spirit, but here is some of the scriptures that are used to show that this is what the Bible teaches about the divinity of the Son.

Mt 1:22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: Mt 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"—which means, "God with us."

Jn 5:18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Lk 2:11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.

1Jn 5:20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

There are more than this, but these are some of the best known and clearest texts that show that the Bible teaches that the Jesus is the Son of God, and is God Almighty Himself in the flesh.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:39 AM
 
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- "Look The Young Woman has conceived
and is bearing a Son and His NAME will be Immanuel." - Is.7:14 [Dead Sea Scrolls]

- "Behold a virgin shall be with Child and bear a Son, and they Shall Call His NAME Immanuel"
(that is when Interpreted, God Is His Name Immanuel.' - Matt.1:23 [a greek rendering]

Jesus is 'the only Begotten God' of God = "God Of G-gods".

"No one has ever see God;
the Only Begotten God Who is in the bossom of The Father,
He has made Him known." - John 1:18 [greek]

Jesus is the Only Begotten-God. We are the Born-Again gods. (sons of God)

I don't deny Jesus is THE Only Begotten God, Of God.

But catholics have not taught this.

Catholics haven't taught Jesus is "The Only BEGOTTEN God". [greek]
They've taught, Jesus IS God.

And that my friends is a doctrine that does not refleck what Jesus Himself said.

Jesus didn't deny He made Himself 'Equal With God'. Being 'The ONLY Begotten Of God".
As Jesus (the word of God) said,
'Is it not written in your law I Said You Are gods?
If He called them gods to whom the Word 0f God came..you say...I blaspheme
because I said I am The Son Of God" - John 10:34

Beware of those who'd take your Crown. - Rev.3:11
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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- "Look The Young Woman has conceived
and is bearing a Son and His NAME will be Immanuel." - Is.7:14 [Dead Sea Scrolls]

- "Behold a virgin shall be with Child and bear a Son, and they Shall Call His NAME Immanuel"
(that is when Interpreted, God Is His Name Immanuel.' - Matt.1:23 [a greek rendering]

Jesus is 'the only Begotten God' of God = "God Of G-gods".

"No one has ever see God;
the Only Begotten God Who is in the bossom of The Father,
He has made Him known." - John 1:18 [greek]

Jesus is the Only Begotten-God. We are the Born-Again gods. (sons of God)

I don't deny Jesus is THE Only Begotten God, Of God.

But catholics have not taught this.

Catholics haven't taught Jesus is "The Only BEGOTTEN God". [greek]
They've taught, Jesus IS God.

And that my friends is a doctrine that does not refleck what Jesus Himself said.

Jesus didn't deny He made Himself 'Equal With God'. Being 'The ONLY Begotten Of God".
As Jesus (the word of God) said,
'Is it not written in your law I Said You Are gods?
If He called them gods to whom the Word 0f God came..you say...I blaspheme
because I said I am The Son Of God" - John 10:34

Beware of those who'd take your Crown. - Rev.3:11
Where did you get your Greek from?...It says the only begotten Son...And being 'in the Bosom of the Father' is a Hebraic Idiom meaning to be in a place or position of Honor...For HaShem states that there shall be no other gods before Him...And Yeshua stated that He goes to His God and your God, to His Father and to your Father...

Yeshua's recitation of that verse is not to proclaim them gods or to proclaim Himself God, rather He was stating that this is what YOUR law states so why are you wanting to stone me for stating that I am the Son of God?...In other words, He was saying the same thing that they were going around saying, but they were ok with it when it came to themselves but not ok with it when Yeshua said the same thing...
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:59 AM
 
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Where did you get your Greek from?...It says the only begotten Son...And being 'in the Bosom of the Father' is a Hebraic Idiom meaning to be in a place or position of Honor...For HaShem states that there shall be no other gods before Him...And Yeshua stated that He goes to His God and your God, to His Father and to your Father...

Yeshua's recitation of that verse is not to proclaim them gods or to proclaim Himself God, rather He was stating that this is what YOUR law states so why are you wanting to stone me for stating that I am the Son of God?...In other words, He was saying the same thing that they were going around saying, but they were ok with it when it came to themselves but not ok with it when Yeshua said the same thing...
- George R. Noyes translation from the Greek.
Not using Hebrew Idioms for word translation.

- There are no other gods Before Him. Being 'the only (true) God'.
But there are gods after Him, that are of Him.

- Jesus (the word of God in the flesh) told them
"is it not written in your law I SAID you are gods?
If HE CALLED them gods to whom The Word 0f God came
and the scripture can not be made void, say you of Him
Whom The FATHER sanctified and sent into the world.
You blaspheme because I said I am The Son Of God?" - John 10:35-37

Jews didn't consider themselves to be sons of God.
Do you consider yourself a son of God?

"The Lord said to Moses, 'See I have made you as god to Pharaoh..' - Ex.7:1

So don't tell me The Lord is not 'God of gods'.

Because that doctrine does not reflect scripture.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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- George R. Noyes translation from the Greek.
Not using Hebrew Idioms for word translation.

- There are no other gods Before Him. Being 'the only (true) God'.
But there are gods after Him, that are of Him.

- Jesus (the word of God in the flesh) told them
"is it not written in your law I SAID you are gods?
If HE CALLED them gods to whom The Word 0f God came
and the scripture can not be made void, say you of Him
Whom The FATHER sanctified and sent into the world.
You blaspheme because I said I am The Son Of God?" - John 10:35-37

Jews didn't consider themselves to be sons of God.
Do you consider yourself a son of God?

"The Lord said to Moses, 'See I have made you as god to Pharaoh..' - Ex.7:1

So don't tell me The Lord is not 'God of gods'.

Because that doctrine does not reflect scripture.
Ok, go ahead with your Pantheon...
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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Scritprue says God is, "God of gods".

Who are the gods He is God of ?
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:14 AM
 
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Scritprue says God is, "God of gods".

Who are the gods He is God of ?
Bring up the reference...
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