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If you'd be just as diligent to accept the answer, you may not have to constantly ask.
So, instead of simply expecting verbiage to bridge this brick-wall, here are some different visuals that answers the question:
The wording of ^^^^ is: GOD
God the Father................................... God the Son ...................... God the Holy Spirit
* Omniscient (Psalm 139:1-4) ........ Omniscient (John 16:30)......... Omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10-11)
** Omnipresent (Jer. 23:23) ......... Omnipresent (Matt 28:20) ...... Omnipresent (Psalm 139: 7-10)
*** Omnipotent (Psalm 139:13-18).. Omnipotent (John 1:3) .......... Omnipotent (Job 33:4)
* God is infinite knowledge
** God is present everywhere at once
*** God is all-powerful
if that is too complicated then maybe this is easier:
It's all in here revealed
Three gods ^^^^^^^^^ . Jesus Christ of Nazareth said "hear O Israel The Lord our God is One".
If you'd be just as diligent to accept the answer, you may not have to constantly ask.
So, instead of simply expecting verbiage to bridge this brick-wall, here are some different visuals that answers the question...
You have listed a number of characteristics or qualities that can be used to describe the Father, the Son and/or the Holy Ghost. They are "one" in all of these ways. I don't see "substance" or "essence" anywhere in your list. If you acknowledge that there are, in some way "three" who are all known as "God," in what way (or ways) are they "three"?
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if that is too complicated then maybe this is easier...
Cute pictures don't cut it with me. If the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is not the Son, then we have three distinct entities. That's fine. You want to call them "one God"? That's fine, too, as long as you recognize that the word "God" is a collective noun, a single title applied to each of three distinct divine beings. Otherwise, you have nothing more than a contradition.
As Thomas Jefferson put it, "It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one and one is three, and yet one is not three and three are not one."
You have listed a number of characteristics or qualities that can be used to describe the Father, the Son and/or the Holy Ghost. They are "one" in all of these ways. I don't see "substance" or "essence" anywhere in your list. If you acknowledge that there are, in some way "three" who are all known as "God," in what way (or ways) are they "three"?
Cute pictures don't cut it with me. If the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is not the Son, then we have three distinct entities. That's fine. You want to call them "one God"? That's fine, too, as long as you recognize that the word "God" is a collective noun, a single title applied to each of three distinct divine beings. Otherwise, you have nothing more than a contradition.
As Thomas Jefferson put it, "It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one and one is three, and yet one is not three and three are not one."
There are no contradions ... and no there aren't three "personages".
Thomas Jefferson (if what was ascribed as him saying it above is accurate) then believed in a false god and went to hell for it..... that's if he is denying the Triune God
You have listed a number of characteristics or qualities that can be used to describe the Father, the Son and/or the Holy Ghost. They are "one" in all of these ways. I don't see "substance" or "essence" anywhere in your list. If you acknowledge that there are, in some way "three" who are all known as "God," in what way (or ways) are they "three"?
God the Father................................... God the Son ...................... God the Holy Spirit
* Omniscient (Psalm 139:1-4) ........ Omniscient (John 16:30)......... Omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10-11)
** Omnipresent (Jer. 23:23) ......... Omnipresent (Matt 28:20) ...... Omnipresent (Psalm 139: 7-10)
*** Omnipotent (Psalm 139:13-18).. Omnipotent (John 1:3) .......... Omnipotent (Job 33:4)
* God is infinite knowledge
** God is present everywhere at once
*** God is all-powerful
The singular plurality in which God refers to himself
Isaiah 6:8 in which God says, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
Genesis 3:22 in which God says, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil."
There are no contradions ... and no there aren't three "personages".
Okay, you don't like the word "personages." What word would you prefer instead? There are three what?
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Thomas Jefferson (if what was ascribed as him saying it above is accurate) then believed in a false god and went to hell for it..... that's if he is denying the Triune God
It's accurate. And Thomas Jefferson's eternal destiny, twin.spin, is not your call, but God's.
God the Father................................... God the Son ...................... God the Holy Spirit
* Omniscient (Psalm 139:1-4) ........ Omniscient (John 16:30)......... Omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10-11)
** Omnipresent (Jer. 23:23) ......... Omnipresent (Matt 28:20) ...... Omnipresent (Psalm 139: 7-10)
*** Omnipotent (Psalm 139:13-18).. Omnipotent (John 1:3) .......... Omnipotent (Job 33:4)
* God is infinite knowledge
** God is present everywhere at once
*** God is all-powerful
The singular plurality in which God refers to himself
Isaiah 6:8 in which God says, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
Genesis 3:22 in which God says, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil."
That's no answer. I will ask you again... in what way are they "three"? Who is the "us" in these verses? "Us" is a plural pronoun, not a singular pronoun. Who responded to the Lord's question, "Who will go for us?" It was not the same person who asked the question. It was a second person, who replied, "Then said I, Here am I; send me." Did the first person send himself or did he send the second person?
What does Form mean to you? Same likeness, nature, quality, divinity????
To me it means that Jesus acts on behalf of God, the Father, and was God's representative on the earth. The Father gave Him all authority on heaven and on earth and He has been exalted by the Father that at the name of Jesus, every knee should bow and every tongues confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father. He is the exact image of Father, and the One who reveals the True God, the Father. to us. Jesus is divine and there is no one other like Him. He is God's Beloved Son. He is in the bosom of the Father and has explained the Father to us, yet the Father is greater than He is, as Jesus told us. Jesus said that all that He had came from the Father and that the Father sent Him. They are One in that they are united and Jesus always does what is pleasing to the Father. He always submitted to the Father's will, not His own. He has the right to be called God because He acts on behalf of the Father. When we "see" Jesus, we "see" the Father. Jesus always points us to the Father who is His God. He sits at the Father's right hand. When all things are subjected to Him, He will be subject to the Father. (1 Cor. 15) The Father is above Him. God bless and peace.
1 Corinthians 8
Now concerning things sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge [a]makes arrogant, but love edifies. 2 If anyone supposes that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to know; 3 but if anyone loves God, he is known by Him.
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that [b]there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
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God's word is actually quite clear on the subject. God is three distinct persons; The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. The Son sits at the right hand of the Father. The Holy Spirit dwells in each believer. All three persons have always been, they have no beginning and no end.
God's word is actually quite clear on the subject. God is three distinct persons; The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. The Son sits at the right hand of the Father. The Holy Spirit dwells in each believer. All three persons have always been, they have no beginning and no end.
Sounds pretty accurate to me.
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Okay, you don't like the word "personages." What word would you prefer instead? There are three what?
