Do you believe that the devil rules over the earth? (Messiah, Jesus)

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by Julian658

I am baffled at folks that firmly believe in the power of Satan and demons and fully reject the Virgin Mary, the mother of God. How ridiculous is that?

They believe that Satan is this supernatural entity that controls the planet, but refuse to accept that Virgin Mary could mediate with Jesus even though she was the mother of Jesus.

Excellent points.

[expatCA]

Do you believe that the devil rules over the earth?


That part, including all Governments, that do not listen to God and .... obey Him.

Thus he rules over the majority of the earth, with willing subjects, even though they are not aware of the ruler over them.

God allows this at this time.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Julian658

I am baffled at folks that firmly believe in the power of Satan and demons and fully reject the Virgin Mary, the mother of God. How ridiculous is that?

They believe that Satan is this supernatural entity that controls the planet, but refuse to accept that Virgin Mary could mediate with Jesus even though she was the mother of Jesus.

Uh, she was only a virgin until she had Jesus, thus your point is what? Where are we told Mary can mediate now for anyone, in Scripture please?

[Julian658]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Uh, she was only a virgin until she had Jesus, thus your point is what? Where are we told Mary can mediate now for anyone, in Scripture please?

This comes form the Church which is not based on Sola Scriptura. But, Mary is the mother of Jesus and therefore she is honored.


But, why give so much credence to Satan? Clearly an allegoric figure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wardendresden]

1. Legalism: How to Approach 'Rules' in Satanism
2. The Rules
   1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked
   2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them
   3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there
   4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy
   5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal
   6. Do not steal (paraphrased!)
   7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained
   8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself
   9. Do not harm little children, for they are our future
   10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food
   11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth


The real problem I see with the rules of Satanism, is that they are so closely allied with those espoused by many Christians, except maybe number five, where sex is frequently taught as more sinful than killing . And maybe number one, where all Christians are so full of good advice (myself included) that others often wish they could treat us as did those who received Socrates' advice---


They poisoned him.

[Julian658]

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

1. Legalism: How to Approach 'Rules' in Satanism
2. The Rules
   1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked
   2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them
   3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there
   4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy
   5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal
   6. Do not steal (paraphrased!)
   7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained
   8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself
   9. Do not harm little children, for they are our future
   10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food
   11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth


The real problem I see with the rules of Satanism, is that they are so closely allied with those espoused by many Christians, except maybe number five, where sex is frequently taught as more sinful than killing . And maybe number one, where all Christians are so full of good advice (myself included) that others often wish they could treat us as did those who received Socrates' advice---


They poisoned him.

All religions are similar, including Satanism and Atheism.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Julian658

This comes form the Church which is not based on Sola Scriptura. But, Mary is the mother of Jesus and therefore she is honored.


But, why give so much credence to Satan? Clearly an allegoric figure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus didn't think so. Scripture please, not man's thoughts such as Mary being ever virgin and a mediator/mediatrix.

[PaintMePurple]

Originally Posted by Julian658

I am baffled at folks that firmly believe in the power of Satan and demons and fully reject the Virgin Mary, the mother of God. How ridiculous is that?

They believe that Satan is this supernatural entity that controls the planet, but refuse to accept that Virgin Mary could mediate with Jesus even though she was the mother of Jesus.

Men of the Father do not worship satan, just as we do not worship Mary.

[PaintMePurple]

Satan tempted Jesus with all the kingdoms of the earth. It was Satan's to give, therefore he rules the earth.

[PaintMePurple]

Originally Posted by Julian658

I am baffled at folks that firmly believe in the power of Satan and demons and fully reject the Virgin Mary, the mother of God. How ridiculous is that?

They believe that Satan is this supernatural entity that controls the planet, but refuse to accept that Virgin Mary could mediate with Jesus even though she was the mother of Jesus.

Furthermore, Mary is nothing more than a dead woman who has wasted in her grave.
As the Word teaches.

Maybe you should educate yourself.