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Old 11-06-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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so what ? even the holiest Saints were sinners. The apostles were sinners.
This does not suggest that homosexuality should be an acceptable practice
for Christians. I don't like talking about this subject. I don't even like thinking about it.
Sadly, the subject has come to play a predominant role in this forum. Which is
strange because Islam and Judaism are also "anti-gay".
Tell me a sin that is "an acceptable practice?" Yet you continue to sin. The subject of homosexuality plays a predominant role it the Christian Forum because the Christians enjoy balking about any type of sex that isn't done in the (man on top of woman, get it over with quickly) missionary position. When it comes to sexual relations, Christians are the experts.

 
Old 11-06-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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Homosexuality is a moral law that applies to everyone.
This is false, because the very word translated as "abomination" means ritually impure in Hebrew. It does not refer to a moral law anymore than avoiding sleeping with your wife during her cycle or eating shellfish does. They use the same word. Leviticus also never condemns gay women, which means it is not referring to homosexuality. You also ignore the pagan context of the Canaanite god Molech.

The world's leading expert on Leviticus, a Conservative Rabbi, even agreed Leviticus has nothing to do with modern day gays. Why on Earth would anyone accept your opinion on the matter? Are you a leading expert on the Torah?
 
Old 11-06-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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I'd love how to see the amount of gay porn Christians have lying around their homes, and on their computers for "research purposes." If you abhor homosexuality, why waste time obsessing over such a minute number of people? You know you have bigger fish to fry right in your own congregation. Sinners, all of you!!!
The largest consumption of gay porn is in the Bible Belt. Food for thought.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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Why have gays as friends? the bible says flee from sin. I avoid anything to do with them. It is not my role to judge them or teach them about sin. They know it themselves but choose their lifestyle. If they truly believed it is genetics they would acknowledge it as sinful, remain in the closet and beg for forgiveness, not blatantly flaunt it. But today such lifestyles are called 'alternative lifestyles'. Nothing alternative about it. It's been around since Sodom.
Hmm, November join date from South Africa with a clearly false teaching like this. Sodom had nothing to do with gays, the Bible even tells you why it was destroyed. You are a False prophet. Jesus commanded us to love others, not demonize and hate gay people.

Being gay is not a sin. Being gay does not refer to behavior or action. One doesn't need to repent of the way God made them. Please leave this forum and stop spreading your lies and hate.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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Why have gays as friends? the bible says flee from sin. I avoid anything to do with them. It is not my role to judge them or teach them about sin. They know it themselves but choose their lifestyle. If they truly believed it is genetics they would acknowledge it as sinful, remain in the closet and beg for forgiveness, not blatantly flaunt it. But today such lifestyles are called 'alternative lifestyles'. Nothing alternative about it. It's been around since Sodom.
What did the Bible tell Peter and Jesus to do? Oh wait, neither of them carried bibles. They were probably read the Jewish Bible at school as kids and adolescents, they didn't idolize the words handled by men.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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Gays are proud of it and shout 'Gay Pride'. How twisted is that?

People don't divorce and claim I was born that way. No one is proud of it. Only gays wear their sin with pride.
We're here, we're *****, get used to it.

oops, the q word is not allowed, but I am sure you can fill in the blank.

Homosexuality is not a sin, and unless your town is full of gays running around butt raping all the straight men then it does not affect you at all.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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Nothing you say here takes away from the fact that every one of these ancient enemies of Israel was wiped out. The Persian empire only lasted about 200 years. By contrast, the Ottoman and Khmer empires lasted well over 600 years. The pattern stands throughout history. You mess with God's people, you get crushed.
How many times was Israel wiped out? By Rome? By Egypt, By Babylon? By Assyria? Nothing any of us says can take away from the fact that nations last as nations last. enemies of the Mongols were wiped out, and the mongol nation still stands also. The pattern does stand, Yahweh's people are crushed, and then crushed again, and then again. As also with other nations.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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This is false, because the very word translated as "abomination" means ritually impure in Hebrew. It does not refer to a moral law anymore than avoiding sleeping with your wife during her cycle or eating shellfish does. They use the same word. Leviticus also never condemns gay women, which means it is not referring to homosexuality. You also ignore the pagan context of the Canaanite god Molech.

The world's leading expert on Leviticus, a Conservative Rabbi, even agreed Leviticus has nothing to do with modern day gays. Why on Earth would anyone accept your opinion on the matter? Are you a leading expert on the Torah?
Then why does God talk about the other nations doing these abominations if it was just a ritual purity law only for Hebrews?

"27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you."

Lev. 18:27

My opinion is shared by many great men of God. Stop trying to personalize.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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We're here, we're *****, get used to it.

oops, the q word is not allowed, but I am sure you can fill in the blank.

Homosexuality is not a sin, and unless your town is full of gays running around butt raping all the straight men then it does not affect you at all.
Yes you are here. You have always been here.Actually I don't much care. What happened to sodom and gommorah? As I said, I just minimise interactions with them. Why are so anxious to get acceptance and interact with Christian people? You may create laws, but you will never be welcome. I don't believe in gay bashing, but no law will make me accept them. So go and do what it is you do in your own home and leave the rest of us alone. I for one want nothing to do with your lifestyle and totally reject your values. Why does that offend you?
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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The largest consumption of gay porn is in the Bible Belt. Food for thought.
I am not going to go into details, but all I will say is that I have helped many a Christian men with families come to terms with their sexuality (or at least I try). It is sad that so many feel they need to hide their true feelings because they were taught it is a sin, and are also afraid of being judged. What happens often is they try to act like they are not gay, many will even talk about how being gay is a sin, and meanwhile they are hooking up with other guys on the down low after church while the wife is out shopping. Many of these men are very involved with the church as well.
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