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I did not ignore it, I even gave you a couple of sentences that show that the meaning of eternal has CHANGED, but it did NOT mean that originally.
What you are doing is taking the meaning of eternal as it is used today and applying it to the way it was used originally.
You do realise that dictionary's keep adding to the meaning of words as time progresses do you not? That the meaning changes because of the way people use it.
Example: when I was growing up gay meant someone who was overly happy, today it also means someone of homosexual persuasion.
Thus the dictionary's CHANGED the meaning of the word to reflect the way people spoke.
Which makes trying to use a dictionary to prove a point is almost useless as the meaning changes over time.
Also of note is we are not taking about eternal per say, we are talking about aion and it's adjective aionios. And I have given you scriptures that state the aions have a beginning and an ending. Thus scripture has defined the way the word is to be used. And no one has been able to show by scripture that those words should be used differently.
Like I have said many times concerning this issue, those who want aion and its adjective to mean eternal MUST go outside of the scriptures to prove their point.
Thus they jump to an English dictionary. They HAVE to do this because NO scripture states the aions are without end. However we do have scriptures that state the aions have a beginning and an end.
So the question is: do you trust the scriptures to define the meaning of the words used in it, or do you go without the scriptures and trust a English dictionary?
Sadly many do not trust the scriptures, but go without in order to make their dogma fit the scriptures, instead of using scripture to define their dogma.
Eternal is an English word so we look at what that word means in English and that meaning has not changed in usage from Beowulf (First English piece of literature) until today.
Then in Hebrew we have "olam" and ...
ASV Deuteronomy 33:27 The eternal God is thy dwelling-place, And underneath are the everlasting arms. And he thrust out the enemy from before thee, And said, Destroy.
OK, that is without beginning or end.
ASV Isaiah 60:15 Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man passed through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
A beginning and an end.
And all the others listed are found including a beginning and no end.
Hebrew:
BDB Hebrew Lexicon: 7138 ~l'A[ (page 763) (Strong 5769,5865)
~l'A[:439 n. m. long duration, antiquity, futurity; — Å[ Gn 9:12 + 405 t.; ~l'[o 3:22 + 19 t.; ~Aly[e 2 Ch 33:7, rd. prob. ~l'A[ (for other explan. v. note in Kit:Hpt); sf. Aml'[o Ec 12:5; pl. ~ymil'A[ Is 26:4 + 7 t., ~ymil'[o Psalm 145:13 + 2 t.; cstr. ymel.A[ Is 45:17; — † 1. of past time: a. ancient time: Å[ ymey> days of old Is 63:9; 63:11 Am 9:11 Mi 5:1 7:14 Ma1 3:4; Å[ tAmy> Dt 32:7; Å[ ~[; Is 44:7 ancient people; Å[me yAG Je 5:l5; Å[ tAbr>x' old waste places Is 58:12 61:4, cf. Ez 26:20 b; Å[ yxet.Pi ancient gates Psalm 24:7; 24:9; Å[ xra Jb 22:15; Å[ twbtn Je 6:16; Å[ yleybiv. 18:15; Å[ lwbg Pr 22:28 23:10; Å[ twmb Ez 36:2; Å[¿meÀ !mi from of old Is 64:3 Je 2:20 Jo 2:2, of the fathers Jos 24:2, the prophets Je 28:8, the ancient ~ylpn Gn 6:4; (Ez 32:27 LXX Co for ~ylr[m; but 1 S 27:8 read ~l'Jemi for ~lw[m We Dr HPS); Å[ ~hb long in them Is 64:4 (text dub.). b. Å[ yteme the long dead Psalm 143:3 La 3:6; so Å[ ~[; Ez 26:20. c. of God, Å[me: former acts Is 46:9; as redeemer Is 63:16; of love Psalm 25:6, judgment 119:52, dominion Is 63:19; long silence 42:14 57:11; his wisdom personif. Pr 8:23; his existence Psalm 93:2. d. of things: Å[ tw[bg ancient hills Gn 49:26 (J), Hb 3:6 (|| d[-yrrh), Dt 33:15 (|| ~dq yrrh). e. pl. ~ymlw[ tAnv. Psalm 77:6 years of ancient times; ~ymlw[ twrwd Is 51:9; ~yml[l Ec 1:10 = in olden times. 2. a. indef. futurity, c. prep. for ever, always (sts. = during the lifetime); ~lw[ db,[, slave for ever Dt 15:17 1 S 27:12 Jb 40:28; Å[l db;[' serve for ever Ex 21:6 (E), Lv 25:46; Å[ d[ 1 S 1:22; Å[ tL;auG> Lv 25:32 redemption at any time; Å[ tr;h] Je 20:17 ever pregnant (womb); Å[ tM;liK. v:11 of persecutors of Jeremiah; Å[ tprx 23:40; Å[ ywEl.v; Psalm 73:12 alway at ease; Å[l yxiy> (hyxy) may the king live alway 1 K 1:31 Ne 2:3; cf. d[w ~lw[ ~ymiy" xr,ao Psalm 21:5; dvy ~yhla ynpl ~lw[ 61:8; so of the pious, jwmy al ¾[l 15:5; jwmy lb Pr 10:30, cf. Psalm 30:7; other phr.: Psalm 37:27; 37:28 41:13 55:23 61:8 73:26 121:8 Pr 10:25; hryva ¾[ Psalm 89:2 I will sing for ever (as long as I live), cf. 52:10 115:18 145:1; 145:2; Å[ hdAh 30:13 44:9 52:11 79:13; other emotions and activities continuous through life 5:12 31:2 = 71:1, 75:10 86:12 119:44; 119:93; 119:98; 119:111; 119:112 Mi 4:5, cf. Å[l 2:9. b. = continuous existence, (1) of things: the earth, td,m,[o ~l'A[l. #r,a'h' Ec 1:4; other phr.: Psalm 78:69 104:5, heavens and contents 148:6, ruined cities Is 25:2 32:14 Ez 26:21 27:36 28:19, ruined lands Je 18:16 25:9; 25:12 49:13; 49:33 51:26; 51:62 Ez 35:9 Zp 2:9; Å[ d[ d[l Is (2) of nations: hyha ~lw[l 47:7 (Babylon loqu.), cf. Psalm 81:16 Ob:10; Å[l bvy of Judah Jo 4:20; (3) families Psalm 49:12 Is 14:20; the dynasty of Saul 1 S 13:13; house of Eli 2:30; (4) national relations: tbya Å[ continual enmity Ez 25:15 35:5; of exclusion from Åy lhq, Å[ d[ Dt 23:4 = Ne 13:1; various relations Is 32:17 34:10; Å[ tprx perpetual reproach Psalm 78:66, of dynasty of David 2 S 3:28 12:10 1 K 2:33, families v:33 2 K 5:27 Psalm 106:31 Je 35:6. c. of divine existence: ~lw[ la Gn 21:33 (J); Å[ yhla Is 40:28; Å[l ykna yx Dt 32:40; Å[h yxe Dn 12:7; of divine name, Å[l. ymv hz Ex 3:15 (E), cf. 2 Ch 33:7 (v. supr.); blessing and praise of it 2 S 7:26 = 1 Ch 17:24, Psalm 72:19 135:13; of Åy himself 89:53; attributes, hbha Je 31:3 1 K 10:9; dsx Is 54:8 Psalm 89:2 138:8; ADs.x; ¾[l 1 Ch 26:34; 26:41 2 Ch 5:13 7:3; 7:6 20:21 Ezr 3:11 Psalm 100:5 106:1 107:1 118:1; 118:2; 118:3; 118:4; 118:29 136:1 + 25 t., Je 33:11; dwbk Psalm 104:31; tma 117:2 146:6; qdc 119:142; hc[ 33:11; reign Ex 15:18 (E), Psalm 10:16 66:7 92:9 146:10 Je 10:10 Mi 4:7; bvy ¾[l hwhy Psalm 9:8 29:10 102:13 La 5:19; presence in Zion 1 Ch 23:25 Is 33:14 60:19; 60:20 Ez 37:28 43:7; 43:9; his salvation Is 51:6; 51:8; Å[ t[rz Dt 33:27 everlasting arms; Å[l hyhy ~yhlah hf[y rva lk Ec 3:14. d. of God's covenant: Å[ tyrIB. everlasting covenant Gn 9:16 17:7; 17:13; 17:19 Ex 31:16 Lv 24:8 Nu 18:19 (all P), 2 S 23:5 1 Ch 16:17 = Psalm 105:10, Is 24:5 55:3 61:8 Je 32:40 50:5 Ez 16:60 37:26; covenant with Noah, Å[ trodol. Gn 9:12 (P); God remembers it 1 Ch 16:15 = Psalm 105:8, Psalm 111:5; will not break it, Å[l Ju 2:1; Å[ tAa Ex 31:17 (P); Å[ d[ tAa Dt 28:46. e. of God's laws: ¿~yÀrbd Is 59:21 Psalm 119:89; jpvm 119:160; twd[ v:144; v:152; Å[ qx Ex 29:28 30:21 (E), Lv 6:11; 6:15 7:34 10:15 24:9 Nu 18:8; 18:11; 18:19 (P), also Je 5:22 (of bounds of sea); Å[ d[ qx Ex 12:24 (J), Å[ tQ;xu v:14; v:17 27:21 28:43 29:9 Lv 3:17 7:36 10:9 16:29; 10:31; 10:34 17:7 23:14; 23:21; 23:31; 23:41 24:3; 24:8 Nu 10:8 15:15 18:23 19:10; 19:21 (P) (most of these in fact specif. Jewish and temporary); temple to bear God's name, Å[ d[ 1 K 9:3 = 2 Ch 7:16; Å[l 2 K 21:7 2 Ch 33:4; consecrated Å[l 30:8; its ceremonies Å[l 2:3; Levit. priesthood, wxrvl Å[ d[, 1 Ch 15:2; Aaronic priesthood, Å~vb $rbl Å[ d[ 23:13; 23:13. f. of God's promises: his word, Å[l ~wqy Is 40:8; promised dynasty of David, d[ Å[¿hÀ 2 S 7:13; 7:16; 7:16; 7:25 = 1 Ch 17:12; 17:14; 17:14; 17:23, Psalm 18:51 = 2 S 22:51, 1 K 2:33; 2:45 1 Ch 22:10 Psalm 89:5; Å[l 1 K 9:5 1 Ch 28:4; 28:7 2 Ch 13:5 Psalm 89:29; 89:37 2 S 7:29; 7:29 = 1 Ch 17:27; 17:27; of holy land 1 Ch 28:8, Å[ tZ:xua] Gn 17:8 48:4 Lv 25:34 (P); given Å[l Ex 32:13 (J) 2 Ch 20:7; Å[ d[ Gn 13:15, inherited Å[l Is 60:21 Psalm 37:18; Å[ d[ Is 34:17; dwelt in Å[ d[ Ez 37:25; other blessings, Å[l Dt 5:26 Ho 2:21; Å[ d[ Dt 12:28 2 S 7:24 = 1 Ch 17:22, Psalm 133:3; Å[ tx;m.fi Is 35:10 51:11 61:7; Å[ xr,D, Psalm 139:24; Å[ ~v Is 56:5 63:12; Å[ twa 55:13; Å[ !wan 60:15; Jerus. to abide Å[l Je 17:25 Psalm 125:1, cf. Je 31:40; Å[ d[ Psalm 48:9. g. of relations between God and his people, Å[l 1 Ch 29:18 Psalm 45:18 85:6 103:9 145:21 Is 57:16 Je 3:5; 3:12 La 3:31 Jo 2:26; 2:27; Å[¿hÀ d[ Psalm 28:9 Mal 1:4. h. of Messianic dynasty and king: Å[¿lÀ Psalm 110:4; having divine throne 45:7; name endures 72:17; established 89:38; God blesses him 45:3; of his reign, Å[ d[w ht[m Is 9:6. i. = indefinite, unending future: live Å[l Gn 3:22 = Jb 7:16; Wyx.yI ¾[lh ~yaybnh Zc 1:5 the prophets, can they live for ever ? cf. Å[l ldx Psalm 49:9; c. neg. never Ezr 9:12 Pr 27:24. j. after death: Å[ tnv Je 51:39; 51:57; Å[ tyb Ec 12:5; Å[ yYEx; Dn 12:2; Å[ !ward v:2; also v:3 Jon 2:7 Ec 2:16 9:6. k. = age (duration) of the world: ~B'liB. !tn ~l[h ta Ec 3:11 the age of the world he hath set, etc. (cf. esp. NH; others i). 1. pl. intens. everlastingness, eternity: t[wvt ~ymlw[ Is 45:17; ~yml[ qdc Dn 9:24; ~ymlw[ rwc Is 26:4 (RVm rock of ages); ~yml[ lk tWklm Psalm 145:13; also 61:5 77:8 1 K 8:13 = 2 Ch 6:2. m. special phr.: ~lw[¿hÀ d[¿wÀ ~lw[¿hÀm ¿!mÀ from everlasting to everlasting, of Åy Psalm 90:2, Åy dsx 103:17; benedictions 1 Ch 16:36 = Psalm 106:48, Ne 9:5 1 Ch 29:10 Psalm 41:14; the land given d[w ~lw[ !ml ~lw[ Je 7:7 25:5; ~lw[ d[w ht[m from now and for ever Psalm 115:18 121:8 (i.e. as long as one lives); of people's hope in God 131:3; dynasty of David Is 9:6; of God's acts, words, etc. Mi 4:7 Is 59:21 Psalm 125:2, cf. 113:2; — v. further I. d[; p. 723.
30:8 for a witness for ever, in a book; ~lw[l 47:7 (Babylon loqu.), cf. Psalm 81:16 Ob:10; Å[l bvy of Judah Jo 4:20; (3)
People who read doctrine back into scripture end up conflicting with it and in this case the word means more than you claim.
Now for Greek
ASV Matthew 19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
ASV Mark 10:30 but he shall receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
ASV John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
ASV Romans 2:7 to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life:
Greek:
UBS Lexicon: 172 aivw,nioj , on eternal (of quality rather than of time); unending, everlasting, for all time
Friberg Greek Lexicon: 801 aivw,nioj, on (sometimes oj, i,a, on) eternal, everlasting, opposite pro,skairoj (temporary, transitory); (1) of God without beginning or end, eternal (RO 16.26); (2) without beginning (RO 16.25); (3) without end, everlasting (2C 5.1); (4) neuter singular aivw,nion as an adverb for all time, forever (PM 15)
Liddel and Scott (Koine Greek, but not a Biblical lexicon) 1179 aivw,nioj
aivw,nioj, on and a( on, lasting for an age (aivw,n 3), Plat.: ever-lasting, eternal, Id.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon: 172 aivw,nioj
aivw,nioj, &on, and (in 2 Thess. 2:16; Heb. 9:12; Num. 25:13; Plato, Tim., p. 38 b. (see below); Diodorus 1:1; (cf. WH's Appendix, p. 157; Winer's Grammar, 69 (67); Buttmann, 26 (23))) aivw,nioj, aivw,nia, aivw,nion (aivw,n);
1. without beginning or end, that which always has been and always will be: Qeo,j, Rom. 16:26 (o` mo,noj aivw,nioj, 2 Macc. 1:25); pneu/ma, Heb. 9:14.
2. without beginning: cro,noij aivwni,oij, Rom. 16:25; pro, cro,nwn aivwni,wn, 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 1:2; euvagge,lion, a gospel whose subject-matter is eternal, i. e., the saving purpose of God adopted from eternity, Rev. 14:6.
3. without end, never to cease, everlasting:
Yep not just what you like, but more than you want.
Then, you know not the Scriptures for Salvation is an active, ongoing process.
1 Timothy 2:4
Who desires (i.e., wants, wills) all people to be saved; and to come to the knowledge of truth.
He wants people to come. But he does not make them. Find some canonical scripture that explicitly describes those who have been thrown into the lake of fire ever getting out again.
Hi Zur, there are many believers who disagree with you. Jesus alone possesses immortality now.
I am unable to post as I would like to now because I am not on my regular computer but 1 Timothy 6:16 tells us that Jesus alone possesses immortality. Paul tells us that Jesus is the first fruits of those who are asleep. (1Cor. 15:20) Those who are asleep refers to those who are dead. More literal translations of John 11:26 have that "everyone who is living and believing in me shall not die to the age" (Young's Literal) "and everyone who is living and believing in Me should by no means be dying for the eon." (Concordant Literal) 1Thess. 4 describes those who have fallen asleep in Jesus rising to meet Him before those who are alive when He returns." The dead in Christ will rise first. They must rise first from the grave. This goes along with what Paul teaches in 1 Cor. 15:50-55. God bless.
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Jesus is to abolish all rule, power, and authority, including the power of the second death. This means that no one will remain in eternal death or what is believed to be an eternal hell. He will make all things new (Rev. 21:5) and this includes those who are cast into the lake of fire. This is the purpose of the lake of fire.
God is perfectly able to cause all people to return to Him. This is no problem for Him.
He is able to subdue all things to Himself. (Philippians 3:21) and He will subject all to Himself. (1Cor. 15) Every knee shall bow in worship before Him and every tongue will willingly confess Him.
God bless.
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Jesus is to abolish all rule, power, and authority, including the power of the second death. This means that no one will remain in eternal death or what is believed to be an eternal hell. He will make all things new (Rev. 21:5) and this includes those who are cast into the lake of fire. This is the purpose of the lake of fire.
God is perfectly able to cause all people to return to Him. This is no problem for Him.
He is able to subdue all things to Himself. (Philippians 3:21) and He will subject all to Himself. (1Cor. 15)
God bless.
1 Corinthians 15
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
Jesus reigns for a thousand years, through the subsequent war and defeat of Satan, through the judgment after which God (the Father) descends with the New Jerusalem and dwells with people. God the Father now rules.
Let’s take another look at the judgment.
Revelation 20
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
Paul tells us, “The last enemy to be destroyed is death”. John tells us that death is thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire IS the second death. The worldly form of death is destroyed just as Paul said. The second death does not go away. It IS the lake of fire. For the lake of fire to be destroyed and its inhabitants freed would contradict Rev 20:10 where it says that the beast, the false prophet and Satan will be in the lake of fire “forever and ever”. It is clearly the first death that is destroyed. Everyone has already been resurrected and there will be no more mortal death, only the second death of the lake of fire. Which is “forever and ever”.
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
Jesus reigns for a thousand years, through the subsequent war and defeat of Satan, through the judgment after which God (the Father) descends with the New Jerusalem and dwells with people. God the Father now rules.
Dear Alt Thinker,
Your thoughts on the above passage does not work with the chronology Paul laid down in that passage.
For instance, every enemy keeping mankind from God being All in all has not occurred at the end of the 1000 year reign. Also, for instance, death is not abolished at the end of the 1000 year reign nor during the new earth eon. Death, also called "the second death" is still keeping those held by it from God being All in all. That death also has to be done away. Christ and God reign on the new earth together. So He has, at those point in time, still not relinquished His reign.
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Let’s take another look at the judgment.
Revelation 20
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
Paul tells us, “The last enemy to be destroyed is death”. John tells us that death is thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire IS the second death. The worldly form of death is destroyed just as Paul said. The second death does not go away. It IS the lake of fire. For the lake of fire to be destroyed and its inhabitants freed would contradict Rev 20:10 where it says that the beast, the false prophet and Satan will be in the lake of fire “forever and ever”. It is clearly the first death that is destroyed. Everyone has already been resurrected and there will be no more mortal death, only the second death of the lake of fire. Which is “forever and ever”.
Death and Hades are cast into the lake of fire which is the second death. There are only two possibilities for what "Death and Hedes" are.
It come related to this:
Rev_6:8 And I perceived, and lo! a greenish horse, and the name of him who is sitting upon it is Death, and the Hades [Unseen] followed him. And jurisdiction was given them over the fourth of the earth, to kill with the blade and with famine and with death and by the wild beasts of the earth."
Or it means that all humans held by death and hades are cast into the lake of fire. I believe it is the latter.
The Greek does not say the lake of fire is for ever and ever. It says it is for the "eons OF the eons." It is for the remainder of the 4th eon and the duration of the 5th eon. Those are the two greatest eons of all the eons that went before.
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
Paul tells us, “The last enemy to be destroyed is death”. John tells us that death is thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire IS the second death. The worldly form of death is destroyed just as Paul said. The second death does not go away. It IS the lake of fire. For the lake of fire to be destroyed and its inhabitants freed would contradict Rev 20:10 where it says that the beast, the false prophet and Satan will be in the lake of fire “forever and ever”. It is clearly the first death that is destroyed. Everyone has already been resurrected and there will be no more mortal death, only the second death of the lake of fire. Which is “forever and ever”.
Correct as if everything tossed into the Lake of Fire came out again then death would, Hades would and we would be right back where we started. Either everything tossed in ceases to exist or they come out and death and Hades would exist again.
If death is not destroyed, then John and Paul lied.
He wants people to come. But he does not make them. Find some canonical scripture that explicitly describes those who have been thrown into the lake of fire ever getting out again.
But He does MAKE people come to Him if they are chosen to be believing.
1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10 proves all in the lake of fire will one day get out.
Eternal is an English word so we look at what that word means in English and that meaning has not changed in usage from Beowulf (First English piece of literature) until today.
Then in Hebrew we have "olam" and ...
ASV Deuteronomy 33:27 The eternal God is thy dwelling-place, And underneath are the everlasting arms. And he thrust out the enemy from before thee, And said, Destroy.
OK, that is without beginning or end.
ASV Isaiah 60:15 Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man passed through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
A beginning and an end.
And all the others listed are found including a beginning and no end.
Hebrew:
BDB Hebrew Lexicon: 7138 ~l'A[ (page 763) (Strong 5769,5865)
~l'A[:439 n. m. long duration, antiquity, futurity; — Å[ Gn 9:12 + 405 t.; ~l'[o 3:22 + 19 t.; ~Aly[e 2 Ch 33:7, rd. prob. ~l'A[ (for other explan. v. note in Kit:Hpt); sf. Aml'[o Ec 12:5; pl. ~ymil'A[ Is 26:4 + 7 t., ~ymil'[o Psalm 145:13 + 2 t.; cstr. ymel.A[ Is 45:17; — † 1. of past time: a. ancient time: Å[ ymey> days of old Is 63:9; 63:11 Am 9:11 Mi 5:1 7:14 Ma1 3:4; Å[ tAmy> Dt 32:7; Å[ ~[; Is 44:7 ancient people; Å[me yAG Je 5:l5; Å[ tAbr>x' old waste places Is 58:12 61:4, cf. Ez 26:20 b; Å[ yxet.Pi ancient gates Psalm 24:7; 24:9; Å[ xra Jb 22:15; Å[ twbtn Je 6:16; Å[ yleybiv. 18:15; Å[ lwbg Pr 22:28 23:10; Å[ twmb Ez 36:2; Å[¿meÀ !mi from of old Is 64:3 Je 2:20 Jo 2:2, of the fathers Jos 24:2, the prophets Je 28:8, the ancient ~ylpn Gn 6:4; (Ez 32:27 LXX Co for ~ylr[m; but 1 S 27:8 read ~l'Jemi for ~lw[m We Dr HPS); Å[ ~hb long in them Is 64:4 (text dub.). b. Å[ yteme the long dead Psalm 143:3 La 3:6; so Å[ ~[; Ez 26:20. c. of God, Å[me: former acts Is 46:9; as redeemer Is 63:16; of love Psalm 25:6, judgment 119:52, dominion Is 63:19; long silence 42:14 57:11; his wisdom personif. Pr 8:23; his existence Psalm 93:2. d. of things: Å[ tw[bg ancient hills Gn 49:26 (J), Hb 3:6 (|| d[-yrrh), Dt 33:15 (|| ~dq yrrh). e. pl. ~ymlw[ tAnv. Psalm 77:6 years of ancient times; ~ymlw[ twrwd Is 51:9; ~yml[l Ec 1:10 = in olden times. 2. a. indef. futurity, c. prep. for ever, always (sts. = during the lifetime); ~lw[ db,[, slave for ever Dt 15:17 1 S 27:12 Jb 40:28; Å[l db;[' serve for ever Ex 21:6 (E), Lv 25:46; Å[ d[ 1 S 1:22; Å[ tL;auG> Lv 25:32 redemption at any time; Å[ tr;h] Je 20:17 ever pregnant (womb); Å[ tM;liK. v:11 of persecutors of Jeremiah; Å[ tprx 23:40; Å[ ywEl.v; Psalm 73:12 alway at ease; Å[l yxiy> (hyxy) may the king live alway 1 K 1:31 Ne 2:3; cf. d[w ~lw[ ~ymiy" xr,ao Psalm 21:5; dvy ~yhla ynpl ~lw[ 61:8; so of the pious, jwmy al ¾[l 15:5; jwmy lb Pr 10:30, cf. Psalm 30:7; other phr.: Psalm 37:27; 37:28 41:13 55:23 61:8 73:26 121:8 Pr 10:25; hryva ¾[ Psalm 89:2 I will sing for ever (as long as I live), cf. 52:10 115:18 145:1; 145:2; Å[ hdAh 30:13 44:9 52:11 79:13; other emotions and activities continuous through life 5:12 31:2 = 71:1, 75:10 86:12 119:44; 119:93; 119:98; 119:111; 119:112 Mi 4:5, cf. Å[l 2:9. b. = continuous existence, (1) of things: the earth, td,m,[o ~l'A[l. #r,a'h' Ec 1:4; other phr.: Psalm 78:69 104:5, heavens and contents 148:6, ruined cities Is 25:2 32:14 Ez 26:21 27:36 28:19, ruined lands Je 18:16 25:9; 25:12 49:13; 49:33 51:26; 51:62 Ez 35:9 Zp 2:9; Å[ d[ d[l Is (2) of nations: hyha ~lw[l 47:7 (Babylon loqu.), cf. Psalm 81:16 Ob:10; Å[l bvy of Judah Jo 4:20; (3) families Psalm 49:12 Is 14:20; the dynasty of Saul 1 S 13:13; house of Eli 2:30; (4) national relations: tbya Å[ continual enmity Ez 25:15 35:5; of exclusion from Åy lhq, Å[ d[ Dt 23:4 = Ne 13:1; various relations Is 32:17 34:10; Å[ tprx perpetual reproach Psalm 78:66, of dynasty of David 2 S 3:28 12:10 1 K 2:33, families v:33 2 K 5:27 Psalm 106:31 Je 35:6. c. of divine existence: ~lw[ la Gn 21:33 (J); Å[ yhla Is 40:28; Å[l ykna yx Dt 32:40; Å[h yxe Dn 12:7; of divine name, Å[l. ymv hz Ex 3:15 (E), cf. 2 Ch 33:7 (v. supr.); blessing and praise of it 2 S 7:26 = 1 Ch 17:24, Psalm 72:19 135:13; of Åy himself 89:53; attributes, hbha Je 31:3 1 K 10:9; dsx Is 54:8 Psalm 89:2 138:8; ADs.x; ¾[l 1 Ch 26:34; 26:41 2 Ch 5:13 7:3; 7:6 20:21 Ezr 3:11 Psalm 100:5 106:1 107:1 118:1; 118:2; 118:3; 118:4; 118:29 136:1 + 25 t., Je 33:11; dwbk Psalm 104:31; tma 117:2 146:6; qdc 119:142; hc[ 33:11; reign Ex 15:18 (E), Psalm 10:16 66:7 92:9 146:10 Je 10:10 Mi 4:7; bvy ¾[l hwhy Psalm 9:8 29:10 102:13 La 5:19; presence in Zion 1 Ch 23:25 Is 33:14 60:19; 60:20 Ez 37:28 43:7; 43:9; his salvation Is 51:6; 51:8; Å[ t[rz Dt 33:27 everlasting arms; Å[l hyhy ~yhlah hf[y rva lk Ec 3:14. d. of God's covenant: Å[ tyrIB. everlasting covenant Gn 9:16 17:7; 17:13; 17:19 Ex 31:16 Lv 24:8 Nu 18:19 (all P), 2 S 23:5 1 Ch 16:17 = Psalm 105:10, Is 24:5 55:3 61:8 Je 32:40 50:5 Ez 16:60 37:26; covenant with Noah, Å[ trodol. Gn 9:12 (P); God remembers it 1 Ch 16:15 = Psalm 105:8, Psalm 111:5; will not break it, Å[l Ju 2:1; Å[ tAa Ex 31:17 (P); Å[ d[ tAa Dt 28:46. e. of God's laws: ¿~yÀrbd Is 59:21 Psalm 119:89; jpvm 119:160; twd[ v:144; v:152; Å[ qx Ex 29:28 30:21 (E), Lv 6:11; 6:15 7:34 10:15 24:9 Nu 18:8; 18:11; 18:19 (P), also Je 5:22 (of bounds of sea); Å[ d[ qx Ex 12:24 (J), Å[ tQ;xu v:14; v:17 27:21 28:43 29:9 Lv 3:17 7:36 10:9 16:29; 10:31; 10:34 17:7 23:14; 23:21; 23:31; 23:41 24:3; 24:8 Nu 10:8 15:15 18:23 19:10; 19:21 (P) (most of these in fact specif. Jewish and temporary); temple to bear God's name, Å[ d[ 1 K 9:3 = 2 Ch 7:16; Å[l 2 K 21:7 2 Ch 33:4; consecrated Å[l 30:8; its ceremonies Å[l 2:3; Levit. priesthood, wxrvl Å[ d[, 1 Ch 15:2; Aaronic priesthood, Å~vb $rbl Å[ d[ 23:13; 23:13. f. of God's promises: his word, Å[l ~wqy Is 40:8; promised dynasty of David, d[ Å[¿hÀ 2 S 7:13; 7:16; 7:16; 7:25 = 1 Ch 17:12; 17:14; 17:14; 17:23, Psalm 18:51 = 2 S 22:51, 1 K 2:33; 2:45 1 Ch 22:10 Psalm 89:5; Å[l 1 K 9:5 1 Ch 28:4; 28:7 2 Ch 13:5 Psalm 89:29; 89:37 2 S 7:29; 7:29 = 1 Ch 17:27; 17:27; of holy land 1 Ch 28:8, Å[ tZ:xua] Gn 17:8 48:4 Lv 25:34 (P); given Å[l Ex 32:13 (J) 2 Ch 20:7; Å[ d[ Gn 13:15, inherited Å[l Is 60:21 Psalm 37:18; Å[ d[ Is 34:17; dwelt in Å[ d[ Ez 37:25; other blessings, Å[l Dt 5:26 Ho 2:21; Å[ d[ Dt 12:28 2 S 7:24 = 1 Ch 17:22, Psalm 133:3; Å[ tx;m.fi Is 35:10 51:11 61:7; Å[ xr,D, Psalm 139:24; Å[ ~v Is 56:5 63:12; Å[ twa 55:13; Å[ !wan 60:15; Jerus. to abide Å[l Je 17:25 Psalm 125:1, cf. Je 31:40; Å[ d[ Psalm 48:9. g. of relations between God and his people, Å[l 1 Ch 29:18 Psalm 45:18 85:6 103:9 145:21 Is 57:16 Je 3:5; 3:12 La 3:31 Jo 2:26; 2:27; Å[¿hÀ d[ Psalm 28:9 Mal 1:4. h. of Messianic dynasty and king: Å[¿lÀ Psalm 110:4; having divine throne 45:7; name endures 72:17; established 89:38; God blesses him 45:3; of his reign, Å[ d[w ht[m Is 9:6. i. = indefinite, unending future: live Å[l Gn 3:22 = Jb 7:16; Wyx.yI ¾[lh ~yaybnh Zc 1:5 the prophets, can they live for ever ? cf. Å[l ldx Psalm 49:9; c. neg. never Ezr 9:12 Pr 27:24. j. after death: Å[ tnv Je 51:39; 51:57; Å[ tyb Ec 12:5; Å[ yYEx; Dn 12:2; Å[ !ward v:2; also v:3 Jon 2:7 Ec 2:16 9:6. k. = age (duration) of the world: ~B'liB. !tn ~l[h ta Ec 3:11 the age of the world he hath set, etc. (cf. esp. NH; others i). 1. pl. intens. everlastingness, eternity: t[wvt ~ymlw[ Is 45:17; ~yml[ qdc Dn 9:24; ~ymlw[ rwc Is 26:4 (RVm rock of ages); ~yml[ lk tWklm Psalm 145:13; also 61:5 77:8 1 K 8:13 = 2 Ch 6:2. m. special phr.: ~lw[¿hÀ d[¿wÀ ~lw[¿hÀm ¿!mÀ from everlasting to everlasting, of Åy Psalm 90:2, Åy dsx 103:17; benedictions 1 Ch 16:36 = Psalm 106:48, Ne 9:5 1 Ch 29:10 Psalm 41:14; the land given d[w ~lw[ !ml ~lw[ Je 7:7 25:5; ~lw[ d[w ht[m from now and for ever Psalm 115:18 121:8 (i.e. as long as one lives); of people's hope in God 131:3; dynasty of David Is 9:6; of God's acts, words, etc. Mi 4:7 Is 59:21 Psalm 125:2, cf. 113:2; — v. further I. d[; p. 723.
30:8 for a witness for ever, in a book; ~lw[l 47:7 (Babylon loqu.), cf. Psalm 81:16 Ob:10; Å[l bvy of Judah Jo 4:20; (3)
People who read doctrine back into scripture end up conflicting with it and in this case the word means more than you claim.
Now for Greek
ASV Matthew 19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
ASV Mark 10:30 but he shall receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
ASV John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
ASV Romans 2:7 to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life:
Greek:
UBS Lexicon: 172 aivw,nioj , on eternal (of quality rather than of time); unending, everlasting, for all time
Friberg Greek Lexicon: 801 aivw,nioj, on (sometimes oj, i,a, on) eternal, everlasting, opposite pro,skairoj (temporary, transitory); (1) of God without beginning or end, eternal (RO 16.26); (2) without beginning (RO 16.25); (3) without end, everlasting (2C 5.1); (4) neuter singular aivw,nion as an adverb for all time, forever (PM 15)
Liddel and Scott (Koine Greek, but not a Biblical lexicon) 1179 aivw,nioj
aivw,nioj, on and a( on, lasting for an age (aivw,n 3), Plat.: ever-lasting, eternal, Id.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon: 172 aivw,nioj
aivw,nioj, &on, and (in 2 Thess. 2:16; Heb. 9:12; Num. 25:13; Plato, Tim., p. 38 b. (see below); Diodorus 1:1; (cf. WH's Appendix, p. 157; Winer's Grammar, 69 (67); Buttmann, 26 (23))) aivw,nioj, aivw,nia, aivw,nion (aivw,n);
1. without beginning or end, that which always has been and always will be: Qeo,j, Rom. 16:26 (o` mo,noj aivw,nioj, 2 Macc. 1:25); pneu/ma, Heb. 9:14.
2. without beginning: cro,noij aivwni,oij, Rom. 16:25; pro, cro,nwn aivwni,wn, 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 1:2; euvagge,lion, a gospel whose subject-matter is eternal, i. e., the saving purpose of God adopted from eternity, Rev. 14:6.
3. without end, never to cease, everlasting:
Yep not just what you like, but more than you want.
Exchange every word "eternal" with "eonian" and you will not have contradictions in the Bible. No Olam/Aion or Olam/Aionion is eternal. The Bible says all the eons end. Therefore, where it talks about "the eonian God" it is telling us He is the God pertaining to the eons. He is over the eons, directing mankind to the goal He has for each eon.
Eternal life is actually "eonian life" which is the life pertaining to the eons just as "eonian punishment" is the punishment pertaining to the eons. Since all the eons end, God will one day cease being the "eonian God" since He will no longer have eons to be God over. At that point, He will then be God, All in all.
When the eons end, believers will no longer have eonian life (life pertaining to the eons. They will have put on immortality and live beyond the eons.
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