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Old 03-20-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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lmao, really?

Forget the fact that i am a j.o. Fight the facts. What is wrong with what i said. Where is what i said a mismatch from the bible?
j.o.?...
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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To this layman, although the words differ a lot, the meaning doesn't much.

To keep commandments = be sinless.

To wash your robes = cleanse yourself of sin.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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To this layman, although the words differ a lot, the meaning doesn't much.

To keep commandments = be sinless.
In the context of the entire Bible, those that do God's will are the Christians. The unbelievers are the ones that don't do God's will.
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To wash your robes = cleanse yourself of sin.
Yes---the image of washing in the blood of Christ. It's Christians that are washed in Christ's blood. The 2 things are kind of along the same vein.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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Different texts. The Textus receptus (KJV ) is an altered text in places. However both mean the same if one considers what washing ones robe entails

As an example:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

If one obeys and stops such sins then they are washed clean.

Any one verse can be a problem until we look for other verses discussing the same subject and then the Bible explains/interprets itself.
I see no resemblance to the KJV statement which is quite explicit that the commandments need to be followed being reflected in Corinthians. It is not clear at all.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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In the context of the entire Bible, those that do God's will are the Christians. The unbelievers are the ones that don't do God's will.
Yeah, another biblical error.

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Yes---the image of washing in the blood of Christ. It's Christians that are washed in Christ's blood. The 2 things are kind of along the same vein.
Nothing in that quote indicated washing in blood.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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In the context of the entire Bible, those that do God's will are the Christians. The unbelievers are the ones that don't do God's will.
Unbelievablers don't believe that any god exists at all.


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Yes---the image of washing in the blood of Christ. It's Christians that are washed in Christ's blood. The 2 things are kind of along the same vein.
But one really needs to do a LOT extrapolation to get to the same end.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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How about one being a metaphor while the is more succinct?...Following commandments = washing your robes (Is everyone wearing robes?)...
figuratively? Is it Galatians that implore us to out on the "Armor?" Does everyone have a suit of armor to wear?
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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Is this really logical? So by saying the rain makes the flowers grow, I can explain the process by saying the flowers grow because it rains?


A writer is a person who writes, and if one writes they are a writer.
Yes in the proper context.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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I see no resemblance to the KJV statement which is quite explicit that the commandments need to be followed being reflected in Corinthians. It is not clear at all.
OK, what are the commandments? They are in scripture. If you read it all, the NT that has Jesus' commandments, you would see it. The problem is lifting a verse out of the immediate context and broader context. The Bible does explain and interpret itself.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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Unbelievablers don't believe that any god exists at all.


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But one really needs to do a LOT extrapolation to get to the same end.
No, people just need to read more than snippets of the Bible and with .... an open and functional mind.
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