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I believe the Government does not really care about Gay marriage, but the current Obama Administration is really only endorsing gay marriage in order to gain votes. Here is a clip of a former practicing gay man in regards to gay marriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV-nwKL04O4
I believe the Government does not really care about Gay marriage, but the current Obama Administration is really only endorsing gay marriage in order to gain votes. Here is a clip of a former practicing gay man in regards to gay marriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV-nwKL04O4
If that is true, just to gain votes, then EQUALTY must have the approval of the MAJORITY of the people...
no but Christ did tell people about their sins and need to repent. I don't see any difference with people doing that today.
The problem is today the world is so full of narcists that they don't want to hear about their sins because in their eyes they are not doing anything wrong.
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No, he requested they did. I'm sure he didn't expect it would be a instant process either. The point is he didn't shun people for doing things he didn't like. Funny how modern "Christians" want to me more holy than Christ .
no but Christ did tell people about their sins and need to repent. I don't see any difference with people doing that today.
The problem is today the world is so full of narcists that they don't want to hear about their sins because in their eyes they are not doing anything wrong.
I agree. And if we truly love God/Jesus, we would not continue to purposely continue to sin against him. Would we purposely hurt our spouses, parents, siblings, friends, etc. if we love them, truly? No, of course not!
Hecate is right, I would wager that all of us vow to never sin again and continue to commit the same sins over and over. I do it out of weakness more often than I'd like. However, if we have a repentant heart and prayerfully ask God to give us strength to overcome, we are more than equipped to conquer sin by the power of Christ in us. God knows our hearts and our intentions. If someone is gay and hardens their heart to God and his desire to rid them of their sin, then they are not truly repentant and in direct defiance to God's will. That is the difference that no one in this thread seems to acknowledge.
I would willingly lay my life-down for family and friends; it's not all about you.
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So would I............your point is ?
It seems self-explanatory. The most important thing to you is maintaining your "salvation" (presumably from eternal hell), and you would risk it for NO one. A belief that one is in danger of eternal torment if one somehow displeases God is bound to cause one to be concerned mainly with one's own self-preservation from such a fate. Such a mindset is hardly conducive to engendering a spirit of treating others with love, kindness and respect. Quite the opposite. After all, other people aren't "worth it". The cost is too high.
Doesn't it seem odd to you that believing in the God who is love (in theory, at least) would cause such an attitude to be fostered in you?
Why would attending a friend's wedding cause you to "risk your salvation"?
It wouldn't. It is the warped "precepts and doctrines of men" that foster such concerns to assuage fears of eternal torment as Pleroo points out in her post.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
It seems self-explanatory. The most important thing to you is maintaining your "salvation" (presumably from eternal hell), and you would risk it for NO one. A belief that one is in danger of eternal torment if one somehow displeases God is bound to cause one to be concerned mainly with one's own self-preservation from such a fate. Such a mindset is hardly conducive to engendering a spirit of treating others with love, kindness and respect. Quite the opposite. After all, other people aren't "worth it". The cost is too high.
Doesn't it seem odd to you that believing in the God who is love (in theory, at least) would cause such an attitude to be fostered in you?
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