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Old 04-17-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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Most of Christianity believes the law of God was abolished, done away with or fulfilled and no longer neded, but fully supports tithing which is a law of God from the OT.

Most Messianic Jews or Hebrews fully believe in the law of God and that it wasnt done away with and that we should have a active and Torah filled life, but dont believe in tithing which is a command in the Torah.

How can 2 different points of views in regards to the law come with such a opposite result of thinking and practice on both ends?
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Most of Christianity believes the law of God was abolished, done away with or fulfilled and no longer neded, but fully supports tithing which is a law of God from the OT.

Most Messianic Jews or Hebrews fully believe in the law of God and that it wasnt done away with and that we should have a active and Torah filled life, but dont believe in tithing which is a command in the Torah.

How can 2 different points of views in regards to the law come with such a opposite result of thinking and practice on both ends?
Perhaps it is similar to the opposing views held by the evangelical Right and those who promote the two great commandments given by our Lord and Savior, JESUS CHRIST??

Given the fact that since the original gospels were written (and since disappeared) and all we are left with is man-made copies that have changes so drastically over the centuries, it is easy to see why there are those who refuse to admit the original writings were of man, just as the error ridden copies are also of man.

Christianity has always tried to be book driven to separate itself from the other religions that were never written down or had a destiny. So man has clung to the written word to justify God's existence--and thus failed to understand GOD doesn't need no stinking book to support his existence.
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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Most of Christianity believes the law of God was abolished, done away with or fulfilled and no longer neded, but fully supports tithing which is a law of God from the OT.

Most Messianic Jews or Hebrews fully believe in the law of God and that it wasnt done away with and that we should have a active and Torah filled life, but dont believe in tithing which is a command in the Torah.

How can 2 different points of views in regards to the law come with such a opposite result of thinking and practice on both ends?
I honestly don't know why Messianic Jews don't believe in tithing, or why most Christians do. I can tell you that it's not a New Testament concept, and that I have taught from the pulpit that we are not required to tithe.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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I honestly don't know why Messianic Jews don't believe in tithing, or why most Christians do. I can tell you that it's not a New Testament concept, and that I have taught from the pulpit that we are not required to tithe.
You and most ministers I ever heard back in the day.

I daresay that "most Christians" DON'T think tithing is binding on them, particularly if you include liberals. The closest I ever heard preached was that if 10% was expected under the law, one ought to do better than that under grace -- but even then, it's not a rule.
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Old 04-17-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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Here's a link of the way it was supposed to be:

Tzedakah:* Charity / Torah 101 / Mechon Mamre

And not what Christianity created it to be.
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Old 04-18-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Most of Christianity believes the law of God was abolished, done away with or fulfilled and no longer neded, but fully supports tithing which is a law of God from the OT. ...
'Most' Christians today, ignore Jesus' warning against hireling preachers. 'Most' Christian preachers today are salaried, and 'most' churches today operate as businesses [monthly budget, payroll, expenses, etc]. So they NEED revenue.

Attend church, give alms to the poor [instead of that church] and wait to see how long you remain welcome attending said church.
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Old 04-18-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Most of Christianity believes the law of God was abolished, done away with or fulfilled and no longer neded, but fully supports tithing which is a law of God from the OT.

Most Messianic Jews or Hebrews fully believe in the law of God and that it wasnt done away with and that we should have a active and Torah filled life, but dont believe in tithing which is a command in the Torah.

How can 2 different points of views in regards to the law come with such a opposite result of thinking and practice on both ends?
I didn't know messianic Jews don't tithe. Christians are split on the issue, some thinking it is a requirement, while others tithe simply to support the church.
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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Most of Christianity believes the law of God was abolished, done away with or fulfilled and no longer neded, but fully supports tithing which is a law of God from the OT.

Most Messianic Jews or Hebrews fully believe in the law of God and that it wasnt done away with and that we should have a active and Torah filled life, but dont believe in tithing which is a command in the Torah.

How can 2 different points of views in regards to the law come with such a opposite result of thinking and practice on both ends?
It may be because messianics realize that the churches are corrupt. Why pay for a building for corrupt people to sit in and listen to corrupt messages? Better places to put your money to help others
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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I didn't know messianic Jews don't tithe. Christians are split on the issue, some thinking it is a requirement, while others tithe simply to support the church.
Pay a reasonable fee once a year. If a family can't afford the fee, they will usually discount it.
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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There was a fire at the priest's house, and it was told to the old Rabbi saying,'' come now.''

But the priest went about his study because what worry does he have of houses and of children? If the people will not support the priest, then let the priest sit in the open field and let him eat unleavened bread all his days and let him take no notice of house, or even of children, what responsibility is that to him?

He neither sees anyone or hears anyone while he is about his father's business.

He has one duty.
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