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Old 08-21-2015, 08:56 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Set and match. They have no rebuttal, there is none.
yes there is ... it's called not having anything to do with wantonly hiding behind mad hatter word definitions arguments because people reject the truth - so it's a waist of time.

Those on the right of Jesus are blessed and have eternal life in heaven.
Those on the left of Jesus are cursed have eternal death \ damnation in hell (the place prepared for Satan and his demons). Matthew 25
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:21 AM
 
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When Jesus said eternal, he meant eternal.
Consider: Jesus didn't speak English AFAIK, so he never said eternal.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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yes there is ... it's called not having anything to do with wantonly hiding behind mad hatter word definitions arguments because people reject the truth - so it's a waist of time.

Those on the right of Jesus are blessed and have eternal life in heaven.
Those on the left of Jesus are cursed have eternal death \ damnation in hell (the place prepared for Satan and his demons). Matthew 25
There is no place called Hell, and Satan is not an entity.
Demonology is merely the demonic belief system of man.

And the other god of Christianism.
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Old 08-21-2015, 10:46 AM
 
Location: california
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A man choosing to walk in blindness will choose to disbelieve any thing that does not suit his purposes .
Most all those that are taught of God, came to this place under a great deal of transparent desperate soul searching and sacrifice and devotion and self denial.
It was not a matter of the influence of other men pushing their agenda .
There is almost no "church" that actually teaches this kind of devotion, because in most cases it conflicts with having teachers to the job of maintaining man's level of continuity .(Evident in Paul's teaching)
This is an alignment with Jesus, rather than Paul.
Jesus specifically designated the Holy Spirit to continue teaching, Not to circumvent God's design.
Jesus taught a great deal about hell, and even there are comments in the old testament as well concerning Hell, and Satan.
When it comes to faith, one way or another the atheist that does not actually do the archeology them self, are taking those they listen to on BLIND FAITH , more so than the Christian that seeks after God personally and desperately.
Taking for gospel the men who claim to know it all about evolution, for the most part are working off the shirt tails of other men that made their educated guesses, that have an agenda to protect .
The true believer is not dependent on what scriptures say alone ,but on a relationship God made in them.
God reveals Himself to us every day ,in answered prayer or miracles , or leading through real events we do not orchestrate .
Believe me we are quite critical over knowing what is self fulfilling prophecy and the real thing.
I have no trouble believing hell is real .
I have no trouble believing Heaven is real .
Not because of scriptures, but because God teaches me the truth, and opens my understanding.
I trust Him

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Old 08-21-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jesus taught a great deal about hell, and there are comments in the old testament as well concerning Hell, and Satan.
No, he didn't. And, no there isn't. At least not from the perspective of Christianism.
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Old 08-21-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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No, he didn't. And, no there isn't. At least not from the perspective of Christianism.
For once you are right. Celebrate the uniqueness of the occasion.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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For once you are right. Celebrate the uniqueness of the occasion.
I never said, you don't have a sense of humor.
But it would be great, if you would catch-up.
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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Fundamentalists are constantly embarrassing themselves

"These non believers reject the truth!"

*Shows proof that the bible has been tampered with and that hell as we know it is only portrayed in the bible a certain way because of translation issues*


"You people are still rejecting the Truth! And this debate is a waste of time!"
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:18 PM
 
Location: USA
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yes there is ... it's called not having anything to do with wantonly hiding behind mad hatter word definitions arguments because people reject the truth - so it's a waist of time.

Those on the right of Jesus are blessed and have eternal life in heaven.
Those on the left of Jesus are cursed have eternal death \ damnation in hell (the place prepared for Satan and his demons). Matthew 25
Yes, there are plenty of verses where Jesus clearly teaches eternal hellfire for anyone who doesn't believe in him. But since those verses don't support belief in a Nice Social Activist Jesus, the liberal Christians simply ignore them or explain them away somehow.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:33 AM
 
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Yes, there are plenty of verses where Jesus clearly teaches eternal hellfire for anyone who doesn't believe in him. But since those verses don't support belief in a Nice Social Activist Jesus, the liberal Christians simply ignore them or explain them away somehow.
Get a life, Freak. You reject everything and then go out of your way to promote and perpetuate the worst corruptions of Christ's Gospel to denigrate Christ and Christianity. IF you bothered to try to see the underlying principle and Spirit of the Gospel instead of the letter of the words "written in ink" you would not appear so uninformed.
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