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It's the fundies nobody likes. But they're dying off.
Thank God.
Ah, so it's only those hideous fundie-people who throw offensive words like "blessed" around.
You are incorrect, because pretty much any Christian uses words like that (Jesus used it all the time), but I am sure you are happy to see the effort to silence them is gaining steam.
It seems people are offended by even a hint that someone may be a a Christian.
Untrue. I am a Christian. I do not offend myself.
No one here is saying that they are "offended" by these terms when used in secular situations. We are saying that they are silly, obnoxious, and irritating. Annoying and overbearing.
"Offended" is a word that the imaginary "War Against Christmas Crowd" has co-opted when Christians try to show others just how holy they are.
Actually, Jesus warned against people who "wear their religion on their sleeve."
Do you recall the word "hypocrite"? Jesus used it frequently.
Ah, so it's only those hideous fundie-people who throw offensive words like "blessed" around.
You are incorrect, because pretty much any Christian uses words like that (Jesus used it all the time), but I am sure you are happy to see the effort to silence them is gaining steam.
Show me where I was offended by the word blessed.
I'll wait....
(Cue Final Jeopardy Theme)
I knew you couldn't. More impotent bellowing.
I understand where your paranoia comes in. Yours is a tiny, dwindling, increasingly impotent sub-sect of Christianity. It's natural to feel angry and to lash out.
Not according to the comments I see on the "two greatest commandments" thread, where many posters try to remove God out of the equation. When God is removed, the only thing which is left is the "nice guy" and his feeble attempts to prove he can do it on his own.
When one puts "God" first in the way you have described it on that other thread, religion is first and foremost about beliefs while positive action toward others becomes a nice, but secondary "fruit." Yet Jesus claimed a good tree brings forth "good beliefs???, or something else?
Go back to that other thread and read your own questions to Mystic. ONE of them regards how others are treated---all the others involve your dogma.
You SAY you have faith, James said he would show you his faith with his works. Because faith without works is dead.
That injured man helped by the Samaitan? Nowhere does it indicate he asked the Samaritan for the bonafides of his "faith." He received the help without questioning or biting the hand that fed him.
The parable Jesus told in Matthew about those asking the Lord when it was they saw him hungry or naked or imprisoned? Nowhere does the Lord ask them if they loved Him first. He knew by how they treated others.
So sing your praise songs on Sunday morning and tuck your "love God first" program into the back of your mind until the next Sunday morning. You can all week long ignore the Living Christ displayed in the beggars on the corners, those shopping for clothes in the thrift stores, those trying to feed their families from food banks, and those seeking homeless shelters on a cold winter's night. After all you BELIEVE (another buzz word methinks). You can explain it all to God on judgment day--after all, He will be able to understand and reward you perfectly. We poor sods cannot.
Now back to our regular programming about buzz words used by Christians.
IMO Bringing up the harmful effects of something is different than constantly harping about it. Saying "Woe is me" only gets us so far. I believe in doing something besides harping on the negative things that have happened to us. Very few people get a life that does not include negative, horrible, heart-breaking things. People....kids.... have to deal with lives full of poverty, hunger, brutality and neglect. The people who get past those negative, horrible things are the people who learn from them, deal with them and move on to build a better life.
IMHO dealing with the past and moving on is not accomplished by constantly poking the bears that remind you of the negative, horrible things in your life.
Poking the bears??
I think I'm well past the negative things that have happened to me, but that doesn't mean I won't speak out against those harms. That's rather like if a parent lost a child in an accident caused by a drunk driver, and found meaning in activism against the root causes of drunk driving, and you claiming they are "harping" and "not getting past it".
I scarcely think Freak is saying "woe is me". He is simply speaking from personal experience and his desire to see others spared it. Is there a pity party going on that I missed?
Yes indeed. One gets so used to it that desensitization occurs. Only after you've been away from it for a few years does it dawn on you that it is basically gore porn. The catholics favor imagery over words, and it's less connected to the redemption / blood sacrifice narrative than to the "suffering is an ennobling gift from god" narrative, but it's just as grotesque.
That narrative is not exclusively Christian. "Whatever does not kill me makes me stronger" comes from a man who was as anti-Christian as they come.
No one here is saying that they are "offended" by these terms when used in secular situations. We are saying that they are silly, obnoxious, and irritating. Annoying and overbearing.
"Offended" is a word that the imaginary "War Against Christmas Crowd" has co-opted when Christians try to show others just how holy they are.
Actually, Jesus warned against people who "wear their religion on their sleeve."
Do you recall the word "hypocrite"? Jesus used it frequently.
Well said Sheena, it is obvious who the offended one is here......the one making all the complaints. I put it down to what is faith is in is very fragile.
No one here is saying that they are "offended" by these terms when used in secular situations. We are saying that they are silly, obnoxious, and irritating. Annoying and overbearing.
"Offended" is a word that the imaginary "War Against Christmas Crowd" has co-opted when Christians try to show others just how holy they are.
Actually, Jesus warned against people who "wear their religion on their sleeve."
Do you recall the word "hypocrite"? Jesus used it frequently.
Silly, obnoxious, and irritating. Annoying and overbearing = offensive.
What is it about universalists and their eagerness to throw darts at people?
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When one puts "God" first in the way you have described it on that other thread, religion is first and foremost about beliefs while positive action toward others becomes a nice, but secondary "fruit." Yet Jesus claimed a good tree brings forth "good beliefs???, or something else?
Actually, I repeated nine times that both loving God and loving you neighbor go hand in hand and both are important.
Why am I not surprised to see a "love is god" team member misrepresent what was said
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