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Old 02-02-2016, 02:37 AM
 
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I'd have to say the conversation you note stopped short. The question after "H-I don't like it, they talk about Jesus," should have been, "What do they say?" If it is just the normal children's stories, there is nothing to say, but if it is about His suffering and death for us, you are in the wrong place.
I think you and DewDropInn are on the right track. Try having a low-keyed conversation with him about his "talk about Jesus" problem. Hard to know what this means without some more info from him. Right now it's just guess work.

Given the brevity of the anecdote, and the fact that it leaves one hanging, no one here is in any position to give advice. The nature of the problem is so far unclear.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:02 AM
 
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It's important to model belief in God in the home, as part of everyday conversation and life. This is the primary way children absorb your faith, as if it is true. Christ has to be in you, and spilling over from you.

I don't agree with church programs, where kids are stuffed off to their groups while adults listen to the sermon in peace. It's not Christ like - its far worse - it's boll***s. My memory of church as a kid was about family, and families together, not about Sunday school even though I attended. Discipline is one thing, but God is bigger than dragging kids to church, and its that bigger God we have to teach them to know. Yes, its a bigger challenge also, and one that starts right in our own hearts, than at the door of the Sunday school room.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:21 AM
 
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It's common and often predictable that teens and college aged take a hiatus from church for a vast number of reasons especially within smaller fellowships that do not have enough teens to continue youth groups, and mission outreach for older kids. They drift due to boardum , philosophies altering faith from an agnostic college environment. Now a five year old IS NOT THE HEAD OF THE HOUSEHOLD!!! He IS NOT THE BOSS OF YOU!. He goes to church period or tan the little lambs butt!!!! As for the teens they come back in time as a seed is planted!!!
Statistically, it's somewhere between 75-90% of children raised in "evangelical" homes, have nothing to do with spiritual matters by the end of their freshman year in college.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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Actually, this is correct. He isn't the boss of you. Used to be, you could leave a five-year old at home for two hours without child services being called. Now with PC agenda, that is supposedly neglect, even though the kid is electing to stay home.

He doesn't get to tell You where to go. So leave him at home with a safety lock on the door. Goto church without him. Then ask him if he wants to come with you instead of to sunday school. If not, the little brat can just sit and watch tv by himself.

https://www.quora.com/What-did-kids-do-in-the-50s

We could use this style of parenting, and modern freedoms.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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Actually, this is correct. He isn't the boss of you. Used to be, you could leave a five-year old at home for two hours without child services being called. Now with PC agenda, that is supposedly neglect, even though the kid is electing to stay home.

He doesn't get to tell You where to go. So leave him at home with a safety lock on the door. Goto church without him. Then ask him if he wants to come with you instead of to sunday school. If not, the little brat can just sit and watch tv by himself.

https://www.quora.com/What-did-kids-do-in-the-50s

We could use this style of parenting, and modern freedoms.

Or, get a sitter. Five year old's should never be left alone at home. Not even in the good old 50's.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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Okay parents.. do you ask a five year old if they would like to brush their teeth? Do you ask a five year old if they want to go to school? Do you ask a five year old if they want to sit in Granny's lap, even if she smells like Ben-Gay and Marlboro Lights? Do you ask your five year old what they want for supper? Just trying to get a bearing on how much freedom a five year old should have.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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Some persons are religiously inclined, some are not. While 5 years is way too early to know one way or the other, maybe your son is one of the latter. Make sure it's not being forced on him, otherwise he might well become a sociopath. If he's not into church, just accept that's who he is, and it doesn't make him a bad person.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Okay parents.. do you ask a five year old if they would like to brush their teeth? Do you ask a five year old if they want to go to school? Do you ask a five year old if they want to sit in Granny's lap, even if she smells like Ben-Gay and Marlboro Lights? Do you ask your five year old what they want for supper? Just trying to get a bearing on how much freedom a five year old should have.
^^^ Good post.

Honestly people....a 5 year old saying he/she does't want to go to church and you need to debate it for 4 pages? Really?

What happens when he says he doesn't want to go to school? You going to get him a sitter so you can go to work?

I can understand when your 15 year old doesn't want to go and you let him stay home...but a 5 year old?
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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What really gets to me is that the authoritarians have NO interest in why a 5 year old would not want to do something, just jam it down and let it fester.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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What really gets to me is that the authoritarians have NO interest in why a 5 year old would not want to do something, just jam it down and let it fester.
You don't have kids, do you?
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