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Old 07-20-2016, 10:39 PM
 
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The book of Daniel is grouped with the writings. No one denies that. However, as has been shown, the book of Daniel contains prophecy. Only someone who is incredibly ignorant, stupid, or has an agenda would deny that fact. And you will continue to deny that fact. That's why I won't waste my time arguing with you. By the way, being a Jew in itself means nothing and doesn't automatically make you an expert on the Old Testament scriptures.
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Yea, it does...
No, it doesn't . . .! It is the reason the Jews missed the Christ. They had and have all the wrong expectations from their writings to this very day. They are a classic case of expectations driving perceptions.
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Old 07-21-2016, 03:12 AM
 
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No, it doesn't . . .! It is the reason the Jews missed the Christ. They had and have all the wrong expectations from their writings to this very day. They are a classic case of expectations driving perceptions.
No, no we don't...
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:36 AM
 
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The Jewish --rejected the one sent forth to them from God so he had to cut them off-Matt 23:37-39-- until they say blessed is the one who comes in YHWH(Jehovah)' name.
It is clear at 38 it says --they will not see YHWH(Jehovah) again until they do it means God is not with them anymore--they have outright refused to this day.
Interesting, if the Jews rejected him, then how was it that the early church was majority Jewish?...
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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Interesting, if the Jews rejected him, then how was it that the early church was majority Jewish?...

The Jewish religion has rejected him. Yes some were wise and left the Jewish religion to follow Jesus--He cannot be followed in the Jewish religion.
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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This is about Daniel...Not about Matthew...

You had stated the Jewish knew best. I showed you your error out of the book of Matthew. As long as one does not accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-- God is not with them.


And you have been shown--many future events spoken of in Daniel. Concerning now--these last days.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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You had stated the Jewish knew best. I showed you your error out of the book of Matthew. As long as one does not accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-- God is not with them.


And you have been shown--many future events spoken of in Daniel. Concerning now--these last days.
There is no need to remind him of the Son.

You just might find out that Richard knows his Name.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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As long as one does not accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God -- God is not with them.
This is my beloved son, listen to him.
It says nothing about accepting him.
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Old 07-21-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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The Jewish religion has rejected him. Yes some were wise and left the Jewish religion to follow Jesus--He cannot be followed in the Jewish religion.
No, no...if you do your research you'll see that they never left Judaism and Gentiles that wanted to join the Christian sect had to convert to Judaism....Sooo....
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Old 07-22-2016, 12:38 AM
 
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The Jewish religion has rejected him. Yes some were wise and left the Jewish religion to follow Jesus--He cannot be followed in the Jewish religion.
It would not be the religion that rejected him, but the people...As I said, the Jewish people did not reject him As the early church was primarily Jewish with Gentiles converting to Judaism in order to join the Christian sect...
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Old 07-22-2016, 12:43 AM
 
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You had stated the Jewish knew best. I showed you your error out of the book of Matthew. As long as one does not accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-- God is not with them.


And you have been shown--many future events spoken of in Daniel. Concerning now--these last days.
Nope...Daniel has nothing to do with This far into the future...I said that the Jews know the Scriptures better than non-Jews...Matthew has nothing to do with the Tanakh...If the Hebrew Scriptures are wrong, then your Christianity is wrong...
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