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i wouldn't call them irrelevant, even if they seem misguided from your perspective. There is obviously a tension between belief and faith that religion seeks to subdue or nullify, and you do not know that they are not sent by God to challenge your premises. Offense at a verbal attack becomes a tell on the state of one's heart. Granted, the attack is also a statement, but why return offense for offense?
VERY good post! There are many people on here who spend their day just looking for reasons to slam Christianity-
You should be asking why Christianity gives them so much ammunition.
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They would take great offense at a Christian posting on aetheist or non believers topics, ....
Speaking for myself but I'm sure that most atheist here would agree with me...I hereby welcome you to come to the atheist forum and challenge our beliefs (which is actually what we are doing here).
As a last resort, there is an "Ignore" function on CD that allows one to simply bypass the posts of those who are only here to throw rocks - and add no substantive discussion... .
But what would be the "fun" in that? I'd end up with, what, four posters?
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No we are here to share the way we know and experience Jesus Christ, and predictably it rattles you fundies
Yeah, it would seem there are a whole bunch of ways to "know and experience" Jesus Christ.
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You should be asking why Christianity gives them so much ammunition.
Well trust me, that's not our intent.
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Speaking for myself but I'm sure that most atheist here would agree with me...I hereby welcome you to come to the atheist forum and challenge our beliefs (which is actually what we are doing here).
You should be asking why Christianity gives them so much ammunition.
Christianity does not, however some who call themselves "Christians" do.
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Speaking for myself but I'm sure that most atheist here would agree with me...I hereby welcome you to come to the atheist forum and challenge our beliefs (which is actually what we are doing here).
Some may wish to but others have no wish to give offense or receive it. Questioning anyone's belief is fine, attacking, denigrating, insulting, etc simply shows the one doing so has nothing of value to offer.
Look for words like ignorant, barbarian, etc and you see the ones who are a waste of time to speak with.
Oh and when claiming to be followers of Christ (A "Christians" as that is what it means) and using such terms, you see the ones who give the ammunition you are speaking of.
If the way we have discovered brings lasting and abiding peace, joy and freedom from the condemnation of being sin conscious so that we are God conscious, then I am always open to that. I tried bible fundamentalism for several years and brought me down rather than lifting me up.
Not to peach but to challenge our lack of belief. There is nothing to stop you doing that. Challenge is healthy, welcome and encouraged but if you come there just to scream that we are sinners and are going to end up in hell unless we believe as you do...well then, you are going to get it both barrels.
Not to peach but to challenge our lack of belief. There is nothing to stop you doing that. Challenge is healthy, welcome and encouraged but if you come there just to scream that we are sinners and are going to end up in hell unless we believe as you do...well then, you are going to get it both barrels.
Thanks for that clarification. Maybe I'll go check it out ...
Questioning anyone's belief is fine, attacking, denigrating, insulting, etc simply shows the one doing so has nothing of value to offer.
The problem with most Christians is that they see ANY form of questioning or opposition to their belief as attacking, denigrating and insulting. Just look at Jeff if you want an example.
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Depends how it's used doesn't. When you have people like Vizio, Jeff and omega arguing against evolution when the clearly don't even understand the basics of it then it is perfectly acceptable to refer to them as being 'ignorant' [of the subject]...because they clearly are. I couldn't complain about someone calling me 'ignorant' if we were discussing building bridges because I am ignorant when it comes to bridge building.
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