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Gen 3:19 - By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."
What does it mean to return to the dust? Physical death.
Spiritual death is separation from God.
Both took place.
Both took place, just Not at the same time.
Adam ' returned ' to the dust of the ground at his death - Genesis 3:19
Adam spiritually separated himself from his God, his Father, when he deliberately, on purpose, willfully ate forbidden fruit.
Adam was as good as already all dead from the day he intentionally ate the forbidden fruit.
So, Adam went from non-life, to life, and returned back to non-life at his death.- Genesis 2:7
A person can Not ' return' to a place he never was before, so all of Adam went back to dust.
There was No post-mortem penalty for Adam, just returning back to the dust from where Adam started.
Both took place, just Not at the same time.
Adam ' returned ' to the dust of the ground at his death - Genesis 3:19
Adam spiritually separated himself from his God, his Father, when he deliberately, on purpose, willfully ate forbidden fruit.
Adam was as good as already all dead from the day he intentionally ate the forbidden fruit.
So, Adam went from non-life, to life, and returned back to non-life at his death.- Genesis 2:7
A person can Not ' return' to a place he never was before, so all of Adam went back to dust.
There was No post-mortem penalty for Adam, just returning back to the dust from where Adam started.
Where does it imply spiritual separation?...And where does it imply that he was created immortal?...
Where does it imply spiritual separation?...And where does it imply that he was created immortal?...
it is not implied but explained well in the Book of Enoch , even implied when Lemech says that he thinks his son Noah is of the angels because "............" and so he travels to find where ENoch is in order to find out if Noah is His son or the son of angels and to inquire of the Lord about Noah. because Noah did not look like him !!
the description of Noah as a child and at his Birth proves that we are not what we were created to be or any place close to it.. something died in us that day and that something was restored at least in part in Noah in order to be our New Father as Adam was at least genetically perfect even after his fall, no matter what he lost that day . so Noah had to be at least as perfected as Adam was after the fall.
but what glory or perfection he was given didn't last long .. but many generations after his sons were called god's sons or " sons of God" for a reason I suspect. Being Noah was made more perfect in order to be the Father of all humanity . but whatever it was that was missing was something very
very noticeable to Lemech anyway . and even the genetically perfected Noah still might not have been what we were created to be .. but still just fallen but more genetically perfect or more original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfLTlHOOndo&t=10932s all the book is glorious, especially if you are a visual person . and can visualize what He is speaking about .
but the end time stuff is around 3:00 and the book of Lemech's account of Noah's birth is after Enoch describes time and history and the future as if it is in weeks . Enoch visions are Awesome!
wow I just thought of something fearfully predicted by enoch....ps notice that God turns all the righteous into white bulls before the son turns into a lamb again.
SO Jesus as a white bull ( Aleph's= Elishah =(AE)Lycians ) and his white bulls ( clansmen in his 2 MOM + third HILL )will claim their inheritance and right to Israel before he is revealed as the Lamb again.
might I suggest the Jews rethink their stand against him as their Messiah . As even Enoch says he the real one , the only Messiah is coming at you as a white bull.
because there might be a large gap of time between the Lamb that he is of today and The Lamb he will be
revealed as then after he has been a white Bull( the bulls in the china cabinets call Judahism and Israel) and all their chosen anti-christisms ! and SO the question created by Enoch's vision is do white bulls forgive sins?
because I suspect that only as the lamb of God is he assured that he forgive sins..... so just sayin ! so is that Good or is that Evil ? I guess that only depends on if your wearing Depends..
wow I just thought of something fearfully predicted by enoch....ps notice that God turns all the righteous into white bulls before the son turns into a lamb again.
SO Jesus as a white bull ( Aleph's= Elishah =(AE)Lycians ) and his white bulls ( clansmen in his 2 MOM + third HILL )will claim their inheritance and right to Israel before he is revealed as the Lamb again.
might I suggest the Jews rethink their stand against him as their Messiah . As even Enoch says he the real one is coming at you as a white bull.
because there might be a large gap of time between the Lamb that he is of today and The Lamb he will be
revealed as then after he has been a white Bull( in the china cabinets ) call Judahism and Israel and their chosen anti-christism ! SO the question created by Enoch's vision is do white bulls forgive sins?
because I suspect that only as the lamb does he forgive sins..... so just sayin !
Have you ever actually read Enoch?...I have...What in the world are you talking about?...
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notice that God turns all the righteous into white bulls before the son turns into a lamb again. 
so just sayin ! so is that Good or is that Evil ? I guess that only depends on if your wearing Depends..
