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I believe jesus/god said to obey your earthly masters like ...... in middle to end of the book.
god/jesus was the beating god in the front to middle of the book.
We try to judge people in the OT as people of today. We can't judge them by today's standards. They lived in rough times. There was no PC back then. An eye for an eye is how they lived.
We try to judge people in the OT as people of today. We can't judge them by today's standards. They lived in rough times. There was no PC back then. An eye for an eye is how they lived.
god could have made PC’s back then, right?
That could have been part of download from that ever so important tree knowledge, right?
Can you post chapter and verse----that would be interesting.
This is news for you???
Luke 12:47-48. Jesus advises to beat the slave harder (one could even say, beat the bejesus out of him) if they knew they had done something their owner would be upset about than if the slave did not know the owner would be upset. But in any case, if the owner is upset, whip the slave. I mean, really, really whup that slave.
I seem to recall Jesus made a rather vociferous statement as to how to beat your slaves. Nice teachings, right?
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Originally Posted by The Last Amalekite 1Sam15
I believe jesus/god said to obey your earthly masters like ...... in middle to end of the book.
god/jesus was the beating god in the front to middle of the book.
You are both correct in that the Bible contains what you are saying, but you both are wrong about who said it. The restrictions on beating and the statement that the slave IS the property of his owner is from Torah and the injunction to obey masters and to do a good job for them is from the letters of Paul. Jesus is the one who said essentially not to fight "City Hall" or the leaders who have taken civil authority.
Luke 12:47-48. Jesus advises to beat the slave harder (one could even say, beat the bejesus out of him) if they knew they had done something their owner would be upset about than if the slave did not know the owner would be upset. But in any case, if the owner is upset, whip the slave. I mean, really, really whup that slave.
Gotta luv yer Jesus, right?
Not advice, just a statement of what happens to the disobedient. The advice is not to risk that.
Jesus spoke in parables a lot of the time. So the story of the Good Samaritan is just myth to be dismissed?
I think you misunderstood me - it's a marvelous story. The despised minority figure showing genuine humanity and the entrenched religious figurehead - when put on the spot by that young upstart rabbi - being cornered into acknowledging it. (Although, as you may note, the expert in law couldn't quite bring himself to actually say the word "Samaritan". There were limits...)
But perhaps you read it differently?
Last edited by Dane_in_LA; 05-10-2018 at 05:13 PM..
You are both correct in that the Bible contains what you are saying, but you both are wrong about who said it. The restrictions on beating and the statement that the slave IS the property of his owner is from Torah and the injunction to obey masters and to do a good job for them is from the letters of Paul. Jesus is the one who said essentially not to fight "City Hall" or the leaders who have taken civil authority.
If Paul had found a good woman, history would have been so very different.
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