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It grieves my sensitive nature you want to "get off the bus", but alas, it is simply not what I want to believe, or "what I do not like". The day over 60 years ago, the Lord of glory touched my miserable young life, I knew my longings for Him were coming to a final resolution! The process has been one of growing into a relationship of trusting Him, and having my poor blind eyes opened, and hearing impaired ears quickened by the anointing of His glorious Presence. Oh, my friend you are sadly mistaken!
Do you understand WHY I said would get off the bus?
Do you understand WHY I said would get off the bus?
I understand exactly why. If you decide to change your mind, and stay on the bus, we will stop along the way and behold more of Abba's plan in the Saviour of all mankind.
"..so abundant was God's grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it—the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. In Him we also have been made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will, so that we should be devoted to the extolling of His glorious attributes.."
You are correct my friend! Why does the Master of the reconciliation use this word? Why?
Because it is an accurate description of the life that's in Christ.
More than a description of time frame, it is always current. If you are a believer in Christ today - you have eternal life right now. You have eternal life a week from now... a year from now... after our physical death... as long as Christ exists, we have life with Him.
Because it is an accurate description of the life that's in Christ.
More than a description of time frame, it is always current. If you are a believer in Christ today - you have eternal life right now. You have eternal life a week from now... a year from now... after our physical death... as long as Christ exists, we have life with Him.
Bingo, one's union with the Master is the foundation for life, make that abundant life. That life is not based on a limited horizon of age lasting, no matter how long that range entails. Again, aionios simply does not cut it. Even aidios falls short (in a way) of what cannot be articulated in any language, koine, English or German.
PS>>>>>the present continuous tense is at work with the anointing of the Spirit and "being" born again>>>"be being"
"46. "And so, these folks will be going off into an eonian pruning (a lopping-off which lasts for an undetermined length of time; an age-lasting correction; a pruning which has its source and character in the Age), yet the fair and just folks who are in right relationship and are in accord with the Way pointed out [go off] into eonian life (life which has it source and character in the Age; life pertaining to the Age)."
Youngs Literal Translation=
(YLT) "And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during."
Weymouth New Testament
Matthew 25:46 (WNT) "And these shall go away into the Punishment of the Ages, but the righteous into the Life of the Ages."
Bingo, one's union with the Master is the foundation for life, make that abundant life. That life is not based on a limited horizon of age lasting, no matter how long that range entails. Again, aionios simply does not cut it. Even aidios falls short (in a way) of what cannot be articulated in any language, koine, English or German.
PS>>>>>the present continuous tense is at work with the anointing of the Spirit and "being" born again>>>"be being"
That's the word Jesus Christ used as recorded by 4 authors who were with Him.
You are 2,000 + years removed, and you say it's wrong.
Or is that a theological opinion which many (but not all) translators have unfaithfully imported into the text & imposed upon the mass of ignorant readers who have swallowed it hook, line & sinker?
No, your excuse is the theological opinion imposed on what the text literally says.
My friend this is an exquisite work. The work is dead on the mark! We have been talking to a few rascals that are having a hard time grasping anything more than our Father losing the vast, vast majority of His creation. They need to take a few moments and consider the contents of this OP.
There is one rascal pretending to know Greek better than the Greeks.
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Originally Posted by Rose2Luv
Greek scholar Marvin Vincent said:"The adjective aionios, in like manner, carries the idea of “time.” Neither the noun nor the adjective, in themselves, carry the sense of endless or everlasting, though they may acquire that sense by their connotation. Aionios means “enduring through or pertaining to a period of time.” Both the noun and the adjective are applied to limited periods."
αἰώνιος can mean that, but is qualified when this is done to avoid confusion with when it means eternal.
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