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Old 03-02-2019, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Read closely, a psalm.

Whoever is pregnant with evil
conceives trouble and gives birth to disillusionment.
15 Whoever digs a hole and scoops it out
falls into the pit they have made.
16 The trouble they cause recoils on them;
their violence comes down on their own heads.

17 I will give thanks to the Lord because of his righteousness;
I will sing the praises of the name of the Lord Most High.
It's not a psalm....it's Psalm 7.
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:04 AM
 
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It's not a psalm....it's Psalm 7.
There is a lot to read and many questions answered.
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Old 03-02-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: So Cal/AZ
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Jesus Said:


Salvation is the gift of God to all who believe they are his sons. But be not deceived; while salvation is the free gift of God and is bestowed upon all who accept it by faith, there follows the experience of bearing the fruits of this spirit life as it is lived in the flesh. The acceptance of the doctrine of the fatherhood of God implies that you also freely accept the associated truth of the brotherhood of man. And if man is your brother, he is even more than your neighbor, whom the Father requires you to love as yourself. Your brother, being of your own family, you will not only love with a family affection, but you will also serve as you would serve yourself. And you will thus love and serve your brother because you, being my brethren, have been thus loved and served by me. Go, then, into all the world telling this good news to all creatures of ever race, tribe, and nation. My spirit shall go before you, and I will be with you always
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:54 AM
 
Location: New England
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For Christianity, salvation is only possible through Jesus Christ. The only requirement to be saved and go to heaven is to accept Jesus Christ in your life, correct? So a person can truly be evil throughout their life being a murderer, deciever, pedophile, etc. but one day they can find Christianity and accept Jesus Christ into their life and that person will be saved and go to heaven. Yet a child in India dies at a young age never having received the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that soul does not receive eternal life in heaven because they never accepted Jesus Christ in their life. Can someone explain the logic here?
There is no logic it to it. Christianity served it's purpose in telling us about Jesus, but once it corrupted his message to God can be your Father rather than God is OUR Father, It became a form of Godliness that denied the power and totally out of touch with the reality of God. Beating your chest saying the bible is the inerrant infallible word of God, believe or go to hell, is primivite and delusional.
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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As has been plainly stated before.
Murder is the unforgivable sin and as the mark of the beast.
Your Christian brothers and sisters are disagreeing with you. If murder is an unforgivable sin as you say then why did Jesus say "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." when he was crucified?
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Old 03-05-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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Dear Diesel: It may not make sense to you, but the identical mass made sinners in Adam1 are the mass made righteous in the Last Adam, the Lord Jesus Christ!

Every last one!
Salvation is only achieved through Jesus Christ. Are you saying otherwise?
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Old 03-05-2019, 06:35 AM
 
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Your logic is flawed in that it is based upon an unsupportable hypothetical.

It is NOT fact, neither is it truth, yet you presume it is. That is the nature of your flawed logic.
For logic to be of value it must have a basis in truth.
It must begin with substance, not conjecture.

Truth is that which is consistent with what is.

Nothing you've asserted is true or even references statistical study. You might just as well assert all Martians have green skin - it is just as ludicrous.

Your questions begin with a false hypothetical - what is often called a straw man fallacy.
You begin with falsehood and end with misconception.
If you want truth, you must seek it truly.

but i don't think you want truth .... you just want an argument....

Do you know for a certainty that "millions of children in this world" have never received the gospel? If so, how did you obtain this knowledge? Did you consult your OUIJA board or perhaps read chicken bones from last night's dinner or perhaps you consulted your tarot cards? Such knowledge is beyond the reach of man today - yet you pretend to have it. How clever you are.
You seem to know for certain that every human on this planet has the opportunity to recieve the gospel even those born into slavery.

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An adult who lives a moral life yet rejects the Lordship of Jesus Christ has chosen spiritual destruction.

Your presumption that salvation is based upon human morality is false.
Many who cry Lord Lord will never see the Kingdom of God because God never knew them. (Matthew 7:23)

The Bible states clearly that the blood of Christ must be accepted and applied by those who humbly ask for salvation.


Salvation is NOT based upon human morality either pure or dissolute. It is not based upon race or nationality or social standing. It IS based upon the blood of Christ.

Accept the life of Jesus as your own or ultimately lose both body and spirit at the moment of physical death.

It is your choice. I suggest you choose wisely.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Thank you kind sir, this is what I wanted to be clarified. You can be the most evil person in this world, accept the blood of Christ and ask for salvation and you will not be destroyed. As you clearly stated morality doesn't matter for salvation in this life. The only thing that matters is accepting Jesus Christ in your life.
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Salvation is only achieved through Jesus Christ. Are you saying otherwise?

Dear Diesel: I assume you have no idea who the Last Adam is. He is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour of all mankind. He is the propitiation for our sins & not for our sins ONLY, but for the sins of the whole world!

Jesus Christ = Breathtaking Recovery

"You know the story of how Adam landed us in the dilemma we’re in - first sin, then death, and no one exempt from either sin or death.

That sin disturbed relations with God in everything and everyone, but the extent of the disturbance was not clear until God spelled it out in detail to Moses. So death, this huge abyss separating us from God, dominated the landscape from Adam to Moses. Even those who didn’t sin precisely as Adam did by disobeying a specific command of God still had to experience this termination of life, this separation from God.

But Adam, who got us into this, also points ahead to the One who will get us out of it.

Yet the rescuing gift is not exactly parallel to the death-dealing sin. If one man’s sin put crowds of people at the dead-end abyss of separation from God, just think what God’s gift poured through one man, Jesus Christ, will do!

There’s no comparison between that death-dealing sin and this generous, life-giving gift.

The verdict on that one sin was the death sentence; the verdict on the many sins that followed was this wonderful life sentence.

If death got the upper hand through one man’s wrongdoing, can you imagine the breathtaking recovery life makes, sovereign life, in those who grasp with both hands this wildly extravagant life-gift, this grand setting-everything-right, that the one man Jesus Christ provides?

Here it is in a nutshell: Just as one person did it wrong and got us in all this trouble with sin and death, another person did it right and got us out of it. But more than just getting us out of trouble, he got us into life! -The Message-
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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One man’s disobedience result= many made sinners.

One Man’s obedience= many made righteous.

One man’s disobedience result= polýs made sinners.

One Man’s obedience= polýs made righteous.

polýs made sinners>>>>>>>polýs made righteous
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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One man’s disobedience result= many made sinners.

One Man’s obedience= many made righteous.

One man’s disobedience result= polýs made sinners.

One Man’s obedience= polýs made righteous.

polýs made sinners>>>>>>>polýs made righteous

Dear Diesel: It may not make sense to you, but the identical mass made sinners in Adam1 are the mass made righteous in the Last Adam, the Lord Jesus Christ!

Every last one!
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