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Old 03-16-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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I am of the same mind Oz, although i totally respect scripture.
I respect scripture also, but as something to READ and digest.

If someone recites scripture, that tells people that they have no understanding of what they are reciting.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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I respect scripture also, but as something to READ and digest.

If someone recites scripture, that tells people that they have no understanding of what they are reciting.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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Absolutely. There is a supernatural realm of existence which is inhabited by supernatural beings, some of whom are enemies of God and of man, and especially of believers. One of Satan's schemes is to convince mankind that he doesn't even exist. In doing so he is able to work his deceptions upon the world and obscure divinely revealed truth. But the Bible is clear that Satan is an actual entity, and presents him as such. People, including those who identify themselves as Christians, who claim that he doesn't exist have been deceived and unwittingly make themselves agents of Satan and advance his agenda.

Lewis Sperry Chafer was the founder and first president of Dallas Theological Seminary. He wrote a mult-volume Systematic Theology. In volume two of the Systematic Theology he wrote the following concerning Satan.
Next to the lie itself, the greatest delusion Satan imposes---reaching to all unsaved and to a large proportion of Christians---is the supposition that only such things as society considers evil could originate with the devil---if indeed, there be any devil to originate anything. It is not the reason of man, but the revelation of God, which points out that governments, morals, education, art, commercialism, vast enterprises and organizations, and much of religious activity are included in the cosmos diabolicus. That is, the system which Satan has constructed includes all the good which he can incorporate into it and be consistent in the thing he aims to accomplish. A serious question arises whether the presence of gross evil in the world is due to Satan's intention to have it so, or whether it indicates Satan's inability to execute all that he has designed. The probability is great that Satan's ambition has led him to undertake more than any creature could ever administer. Revelation declares that the whole cosmos-system must be annihilated---not its evil alone, but all that is in it, both good and bad. God will incorporate nothing of Satan's failure into that kingdom which He will set up in the earth. The cosmos diabolicus must be ''broken in pieces'' and become like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors which the wind carries away, and all of this before the Smiting Stone---Christ in His return to earth---will set up a kingdom which shall fill the whole earth (Dan. 2:34-35, 44-45).

Systematic Theology, Chafer vol. 2, pp. 100-101.
Satan's world system, the cosmos disbolicus, is designed to incorporate, to mix lies with the truth in order to turn the truth into a lie. A little leaven leavens the whole lump (Gal. 5:9). Satan's goal for the unbeliever is to blind him to the truth, and for the believer, to hinder his spiritual progress. He has had much success in both areas. The believer's defense against the schemes of Satan is knowledge of the truth which God has revealed in His word.
Something else ole elihu(Satan) does besides present himself as a savoir. Elihu tries to convince the believers they are outnumbered.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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Eph. 6

The Armor of God
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
In other words: Don your Fundashields Of Determined Ignorance!

Fear not the evil of Truth! Thy FODI will protect thee!


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Old 03-16-2019, 08:00 PM
 
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Eph. 6

The Armor of God
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
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Of all the Living armor Freely given in grace. There is a perspective position on the body that is the Temple.

Where do you picture the sheild of Faith is?
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Of all the Living armor having a perspective position on the body that is the Temple.

Where do you picture the sheild of Faith is?
Encompassing the divine pattern on the heart of every man and woman who is aware that Goddwells within them.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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Of all the Living armor Freely given in grace. There is a perspective position on the body that is the Temple.

Where do you picture the sheild of Faith is?
Forgive me for any lack of visual example. Do you remember what our Lord and savior showed mosheh on that fateful day.

If so. Perhaps then clarity will fill your heart with a good seed divinely given.

Consider after such an experience what the Lord means when speaking of the Way and the Gate.

There are many who think of altar being the place of sacrifice. But there are few that find the altar of prayer. Within the Holy Place there is memorial to those who have witness the Chariot.
Fewer even that have followed the Lord and found the children who were imprisoned before noach.

Blessings Always.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:03 PM
 
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Encompassing the divine pattern on the heart of every man and woman who is aware that Goddwells within them.

That sounded a like a Fundamental principle.

I asked a specific question.

Ill ask directly;
Of all the Living Armor; where do 'you' wear a shield of Faith?
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:23 PM
 
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That sounded a like a Fundamental principle.

I asked a specific question.

Ill ask directly;
Of all the Living Armor; where do 'you' wear a shield of Faith?
Same answer , we are all encompassed with it, most of us are not aware of it, i would say from your post that you are not too.

Psalm 28:7. Drop the belief in separation Mr Pin and it will make absolute sense to you . I'm amazed your buddy rbbi who has commited 32 plus years to the study of scriptures has not seen this.

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Old 03-16-2019, 09:51 PM
 
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Same answer , we are all encompassed with it, most of us are not aware of it, i would say from your post that you are not too.

Psalm 28:7. Drop the belief in separation Mr Pin and it will make absolute sense to you . I'm amazed your buddy rbbi who has commited 32 plus years to the study of scriptures has not seen this.
So,
Rather than address the question and answer,"I do not know".
You wander instead of meditating in the kingdom Torah.

Is my assessment correct?

Before you answer.
Mosheh was given a Vision. Take note of the Word Vision.
What did mosheh see?
If you "knew/know/ or had known the answer.

You would of heard the bells of the high priest Yeshua.

The Lord showed mosheh where to wear a the Living shield of Faith.
And those that are of the Fold "know how to dress for a wedding.
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