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I just hope that you've been really set free from your old belief of salvation by works - by witnessing... and that is not what is driving you.
From your various posts, I believe there may be a word here for you. I hope you receive my post in the spirit intended... totally in love and with your best in mind.
I just want you to experience total release from all bondage that might still hold you captive...to know freedom in Christ.
God Bless You!
goodnight~
Thank you for your kindness and concern. However, to reassure you (so that you dont think you're talking to someone who is a believer in the JW doctrine), I'd like to just reiterate with you guys who I am:
I believe in predestination, the JW's dont.
I believe Jesus is God, the JW's dont.
I believe that salvation is NOT by works, but rather it is a free gift. the JW's dont.
I believe that no man can come to the Father unless the Spirit draws them.
I believe salvation can NOT be lost if one's name is written in the Book of Life and chosen by God from before they were born to be one of His 'elect'; the JW's dont.
I believe in hell. the JW's dont.
I believe in I should have been allowed to talk to my grandma and grandpa for the 1st 15 years of my life even though my grandma got kicked out of the JW's for smoking.. the JW's dont.
What the JW's taught/believe that I still believe:
That God in heaven has a name and it is Jehovah. (Though I also believe Jesus is God...)
I still believe that the demons are alive and kicking.
I still believe that there are no dead people capable of comminicating with us; I believe they are all demons who manifest themselves as dead relatives (sorry to those who disagree, I just haven't found proof that I am wrong on this).
I still believe that the Lord punishes us if we disobey Him.
I still believe that Satan can transform himself into an angel of light.
And that's pretty much it. If anyone objects to the things that I still believe (that the JW's also believe), please feel free to comment.
Thanks everyone, for forgiving me that I have babbled so much! I know some of my posts were long and may have been boring. Sometimes, I get a little carried away so as to make sure I dot all the i's and cross all the t's, as my dad taught me to do from an early age. (He rambles too, God bless him! hehehe)
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I understand that you are no longer a practicing JW. I never doubted it.
While everything you've shared is interesting and informative, I have no desire to read the WatchTower's information on their site. I prefer to learn about Truth for the sake of knowing Jesus and becoming more like Him.... from faith to faith... for the sheer joy of knowing Him. While knowledge is good, it won't save us... it's the Spirit that gives life!
I hope that I didn't in any way offend you with my suggestion. I still hope you'll pray about it.
I hope you find a strong, vibrant, Bible believing church to attend (you said you were looking, right?)
God bless you!
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Oh, and they predicted Armegeddon in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925 and 1975. None of their predictions came true. And they said "When we speak, God speaks.", therefore, they are calling God a liar. They also said God is the editor of the Watchtower, which I suppose meant that they were saying God lies.
False prophecies are just the beginning.
To say they are the voice of God and then come to the realization that they falsely prophecied is a downright abomination as far as I'm concerned. But they did it over, and over, and over (make false prophecies).
Yea, I am studing on Jw, because when they come to my door, I will glady welcome them in, and teach them about Jesus. They believe that Jesus is Michael the angel, that he is not God, that you are saved through your works, not to mention Johannes Greber who was married to a medium, and all of the false predictions that they have made. If there predictions was from God, then they would have come true. I respect them and will welcome them into my home for a debate. I don't like to give my opinion when it comes down to proving God's word, I just go to scripture.
Yea, I am studing on Jw, because when they come to my door, I will glady welcome them in, and teach them about Jesus. They believe that Jesus is Michael the angel, that he is not God, that you are saved through your works, not to mention Johannes Greber who was married to a medium, and all of the false predictions that they have made. If there predictions was from God, then they would have come true. I respect them and will welcome them into my home for a debate. I don't like to give my opinion when it comes down to proving God's word, I just go to scripture.
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Just imagine, that could be a soul won to Christ. Someone took their time to tell you about God, and Jesus commanded us to go out and finish his mission. If you are grounded in your faith and you are truely concerned about winning people to christ, then you will want to share your faith with them.
What would Jesus do? Jesus went and helped the people that we normally would not help. So, that says alot about the people in this day and age. I am no better than anyone else, and I will share my faith, even with people that are in cults, why, because they have a soul, and thinking about someone's soul burning in hell is upsetting. Jesus went to the worst of them, and extended his love to them, because he is love and he commanded us to love one another, not just Christians or people that look like us, or the people that we hang around, everyone. So, maybe this is just me, but God wants us to be like Christ daily, and that does not mean helping only the people that we feel deserves it. You have to be grounded in your faith to witness to someone who believes in another faith, if not they will have you looking crazy. So, I care about finishing Christ Mission, and that means going to everyone, and witnessing to people that come into my life, or my path. It may take you only minutes to tell them about Christ, but they will have God forever. People need to be more sincere and relize that we were not all saved. Someone took the time to tell us about God, and now we need to take the time to tell others about God, and tell them about The Wonderful God We Serve. You know that it is all about God anyway, not us.
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Just imagine, that could be a soul won to Christ. Someone took their time to tell you about God, and Jesus commanded us to go out and finish his mission. If you are grounded in your faith and you are truely concerned about winning people to christ, then you will want to share your faith with them.
What would Jesus do? Jesus went and helped the people that we normally would not help. So, that says alot about the people in this day and age. I am no better than anyone else, and I will share my faith, even with people that are in cults, why, because they have a soul, and thinking about someone's soul burning in hell is upsetting. Jesus went to the worst of them, and extended his love to them, because he is love and he commanded us to love one another, not just Christians or people that look like us, or the people that we hang around, everyone. So, maybe this is just me, but God wants us to be like Christ daily, and that does not mean helping only the people that we feel deserves it. You have to be grounded in your faith to witness to someone who believes in another faith, if not they will have you looking crazy. So, I care about finishing Christ Mission, and that means going to everyone, and witnessing to people that come into my life, or my path. It may take you only minutes to tell them about Christ, but they will have God forever. People need to be more sincere and relize that we were not all saved. Someone took the time to tell us about God, and now we need to take the time to tell others about God, and tell them about The Wonderful God We Serve. You know that it is all about God anyway, not us.
Shawn, I realize your heart is sincere and you truly want to win them over to Christ, but please be careful, these people have een thoroughly taught to manipulate conversations and could quite possibly have you believing things you never ever thought you would. All it takes is for them to gain an inch, and they will use that to their advantage.
Shawn, I realize your heart is sincere and you truly want to win them over to Christ, but please be careful, these people have een thoroughly taught to manipulate conversations and could quite possibly have you believing things you never ever thought you would. All it takes is for them to gain an inch, and they will use that to their advantage.
Yea, I understand what cults do, they try to draw you in. That is why I am making sure that I am grounded and really know what I'm talking about. But one thing I learn that if you really love Jesus, and want to stay with him, noone can take you away from him. If you leave him, then they never went to him in the first place. Thank you for the encouragement, and I do understand their are just some situations that God would not allow me to be in. So, that is why I allow the Holy Spirit to guide me, and direct me, and if he knows something that I don't and tell me to leave that person alone, you better know I'm stepping with the Holy Ghost. Once again thank you.
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I know some of my posts were long and may have been boring. 
Sometimes, I get a little carried away so as to make sure I dot all the i's and cross all the t's, as my dad taught me to do from an early age. (He rambles too, God bless him! hehehe)
