Do you know what "Luck" means and why you should not use the term as a Christian? (Gospel, punishment)
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I was watching John Haggerty on the Christian Channel here in New York, Its the TBN channel for those whom are interested , I recall the Pastor saying the word LUCK means Lucifer, the adversary, The problem I have is if he said it was Latin. Hebrew or Greek. Since i heard this ,I can not get over the fact .He is Correct!! I will do more research on this matter, I can not seem to let this go in my Heart, (God lives in our hearts) Every time I hear this word,, I say. "I rebuke that word in Jesus name!! I recall the Holy Spirit telling me OUR WORDS ARE POWERFUL!! THIS I KNOW FROM MY STUDYING THE BIBLE,(KJV), CAN ANY OTHER PERSON HELP ME WITH THIS SUBJECT,PLEASE EMAIL ME IF SO ...
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Originally Posted by pattyann oloughlin
I agree totally, from my reasearch luck means Lucifer!!, I rebuke that word every time i hear it, Amen
The etymology of the word luck has nothing to do with the Latin word Lucifer. However, in Dutch it means "happiness" or "good fortune."
In Hebrew (b'hatzlacha), it is that "with success!"
In other words, "congratulations."
I hope you win the lottery, it's random; not luck?
Much like that of a poker game at a Casino?
The machines, shuffle them into random hands - mostly in favor of the house. Some gaming laws do not allow "games of chance." It's a random payout.
I think the word Luck as we know it is in a way denying its opposite which is Fate.
I find people that generally do not believe in God resort to talking about things being "lucky" or what not. So just a matter of the odds and chance.. coincidence.
Christians who believe in a sovereign God that is in control of all don't believe there's anything such as luck. Things happen for a reason whatever that reason might be.
Should we as believers use the term Luck? or "Lucky"?
We have all said this mostly out of habit ..
but I'd like to take a closer look at the meaning, and it's contradiction to the word of God.
Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not yet seen" KJV; does luck nullify this passage of scripture?
I've been wanting to discuss the topic and get the view of other believers
using the phrase "Luck" or "Lucky"
whether it is done out of habit, or ignorance (not knowing)..
Do you know what luck" really mean? and where the word derived?
Some minister years ago taught on this subject. Proverbs 18:21
If "life and death are in the power of the tongue" according to scripture
then why would you want to use phrases with the word lucky in it, when you are addressing someone?
For example: "you sure are lucky" instead of "you sure are blessed"
or " Good Luck" (as a salutation) when wishing someone well
Some definitions for "Luck"
Fortune- having unexpected good fortune
Chance- happening by chance or as desired
a force that brings good fortune or adversity
an unknown and unpredictable phenomenom that causes an event to sway one way or another.
What the Bible have to say about it? and how do they contrast God's Promises for us.
wikipedia
what's your take on it
Thanks in advance?
Its not luck
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Combo of works faith effort
Luck is always present good and bad but does not determine final outcome
I am a walking miracle
If it was all luck I would have cleaned out the casinos long ago
I think the word Luck as we know it is in a way denying its opposite which is Fate.
I find people that generally do not believe in God resort to talking about things being "lucky" or what not. So just a matter of the odds and chance.. coincidence.
Christians who believe in a sovereign God that is in control of all don't believe there's anything such as luck. Things happen for a reason whatever that reason might be.
I find it interesting how Christians constantly contradict themselves by crowing about free will in one post and then, in another post, claiming there's no such thing as luck, just God micromanaging everything so that the outcome is always what God wants it to be. In other words, there's no -real- free will, just the illusion that whatever we choose will have different outcomes. In fact, your logic suggests that no matter what we choose, the outcome is a foregone conclusion - whatever God wishes it to be. So what's the point of even having free will if it doesn't give us any control?
What I find irritating, as well, is when Christians claim they are blessed or God helped me or "it wasn't luck, it was the hand of God!"
The magnitude of hubris necessary to think the Creator of All Things helped you find your car keys but failed to protect children killed in the U.N. school bombing in Gaza or allowed those 20 little kids to die in the Sandy Hook shooting - I mean, seriously, what on earth are you thinking?
Is your head so puffed up with self-importance to think that God wants you to have your little problems solved while much larger problems are being ignored?
What I've noticed about this trend is that God seems to be quite the solver of our First World problems. God ensured that the part you needed to fix your foreign car was in stock but failed to prevent a tsunami that killed over 200,000 people. God blessed your life with a good job and wonderful income - while God seemingly ignores the millions living in tents or in their cars right here in America because they can't find any work. According to this anti-luck theory, God only helps the people who need it the least.
AND ... this idea that everything has a purpose, that nothing is random or that there's no such thing as luck (either good or bad) has justified nasty atrocities all over the planet. Before FDR and the advent of government programs like Social Security and Disability, people treated the poor and the disabled like crap. Why? Because it was assumed that if you were struck down with a disability or was living in poverty, it was because God was punishing you; somehow, you were living a sinful, immoral life and therefore you DESERVE to suffer. It certainly wasn't just bad luck that landed those people into poverty or physical/mental suffering. Oh no, it was their sinful lifestyle. And thus people either had to live in harshly-run county poorhouses or you begged on the street.
That sentiment STILL exists ... and guess where? Yeah, the Bible Belt. Nice, huh? Look at the states that voted NOT to expand Medicaid to help the poor. Do I even need to tell you which states told the poor to go screw themselves? Would it shock you if I told you they were all of the states in the Bible Belt save for Arkansas? This is the kind of "inhumanity to Man" that die-hard Christian beliefs cause, especially many of the Baptist and fundamentalist beliefs.
So no ... I think I'll continue believing in luck, and that sometimes, life simply comes up snake-eyes. There is no God undermining your free will to produce outcomes he wants to see happen. That's just balderdash, a way for people to feel good about their successes while casting scorn at those who are not as successful.
My god... just when I thought I'd heard it all... now I learn that it's an affront to god to wish someone good luck.
It must be incredibly hard work being a fundamentalist. How do y'all ever manage to keep track of all the millions of tiny details that you're supposed to worry yourselves to death over?
If I use the word luck in reference to some one else ,it is that I may believe that they are operating on their own ,out side God's personal influence.
I don't manipulate the hand of God ,I endeavor to work in concert with His will , and usually those whom do, God can align His providence on their behalf, to bless them and help them through their needs and the things He has requested them to do..
Those that choose not to be guided by God, are unlikely to know His providence, or at least unaware of it, not having a submissive lifestyle to God.
Doesn't mean He can't work wonders in them , it just means they put the brakes on knowing more of His instruction and other blessings.
Should I pray for some ones healing, not having God's instruction to do so ,
they very well may experience the healing, but that does not certify them or I, with having God's approval .
Miracles with the power of God, and the power of Jesus name , do not affirm a man's relationship. Matthew 7;21,22,23,
When the disciples had a need, and asked Jesus , Jesus gave them instruction as to where the provision is being met. they did not always simply play the observer .
Obedience was required.
As it was then, as it is now.
God's providence is not luck, it is the result of obedience and He is the One that determines what is, and what is not ,action He inspired.
You are right to be cautious about your words,
Jesus said we will give account for every idle word. that being the case, even words of song should be taken seriously .
Not that one can't sing ,but the words should be true, and honest.
Lies are offensive to God and if one disregards their tongue, How can God guide them in it?
This applies to All speech all communications ,public or private preaching or in prayer alone.
There is no place possible, God is not aware of you, and the more your realize that, the better things get.
Hearing what you hear, and what you say, and the things you see, and do.
I was watching John Haggerty on the Christian Channel here in New York, Its the TBN channel for those whom are interested , I recall the Pastor saying the word LUCK means Lucifer, the adversary, The problem I have is if he said it was Latin. Hebrew or Greek. Since i heard this ,I can not get over the fact .He is Correct!! I will do more reseach on this matter, I can not seem to let this go in my Heart,( God lives in our hearts)Every time I hear this word,, I say. "I rebuke that word in Jesus name!! I recall the Holy Spirit telling me OUR WORDS ARE POWERFUL!! THIS I KNOW FROM MY STUDYING THE BIBLE,(KJV), CAN ANY OTHER PERSON HELP ME WITH THIS SUBJECT,PLEASE EMAIL ME IF SO,Moderator cut: don't put your email address out there for the world to see. Use DM
See the lady luck which wager believe in is not of Lord Jesus Christ but a substitute idol spirit of this world.......See there are celestial lady luck demon spirit which can influence the balls that come down and people get the lottery numbers that win ........Who said the devil does not have power , where God gave the devil spiritual power over the cattle of the field , and all who follow the devil and His ways ....... The wager is not of God so bingo game and the competition lottery is out .....
Should we as believers use the term Luck? or "Lucky"?
We have all said this mostly out of habit ..
but I'd like to take a closer look at the meaning, and it's contradiction to the word of God.
Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not yet seen" KJV; does luck nullify this passage of scripture?
I've been wanting to discuss the topic and get the view of other believers
using the phrase "Luck" or "Lucky"
whether it is done out of habit, or ignorance (not knowing)..
Do you know what luck" really mean? and where the word derived?
Some minister years ago taught on this subject. Proverbs 18:21
If "life and death are in the power of the tongue" according to scripture
then why would you want to use phrases with the word lucky in it, when you are addressing someone?
For example: "you sure are lucky" instead of "you sure are blessed"
or " Good Luck" (as a salutation) when wishing someone well
Some definitions for "Luck"
Fortune- having unexpected good fortune
Chance- happening by chance or as desired
a force that brings good fortune or adversity
an unknown and unpredictable phenomenom that causes an event to sway one way or another.
What the Bible have to say about it? and how do they contrast God's Promises for us.
wikipedia
what's your take on it
Thanks in advance?
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